steviem Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 Long bolts away from clutch and brake arms, won't pull through though, also thought I'd take data plates off to save any damage, choke and throttle cable's released from the carburettor, soaked chassis bolts driver's side front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hall Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Try some more heat and oil. Probably just stuck with dirt/grease and our old favourite.....rust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviem Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 All three pedals off, all three knackered, time to start wiring removal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlymb Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Part of that wiring looks like it might be original... If so, that would be worth inspecting to see if it can be cleaned up and used again safely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviem Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 It is running on 12v would that not be a problem, i have here a replacement set from MV and kind of brings me to my next question, which electric cables are mandatory during tub removal, i have read one guy removed his tub stood it up on its back end the removed the gauges and clusters he found it a lot easier standing, i am only 5,7 so it could suit me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlymb Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 12V won't be a problem, it's more that you have to check if the original wiring is damaged/broken/brittle (especially the coating) but even if it is, it is worth keeping for reference. You can leave the wiring on the tub, just make sure everything is disconnected at the fire wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I found it much easier wiring my tub with it on its side. I wired everything and then put it on the chassis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey on top Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I personally would replace the complete old wiring loom. I can see in the photo that the fabric covered wires are looking frayed and brittle and where they might make a tight turn when in the tub they could crack and potentially short out. On my Dodge under the dash the insulation had fallen away leaving complete lengths of bare copper wire. While you have the easy access with the tub off put a new MV Spares loom in ( I think about £260). Good luck with the project and I will continue to follow this thread to see how you get on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hall Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I would also replace the loom, at best it works for a while, worst, it catches fire and burns out. Then of course you may get spurious faults and then you’ll wonder if it’s that old piece of loom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey on top Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Chris you summed it up perfectly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviem Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 thanks guys i already have the new loom here, Sirhc, did you strip it like that too. Pretty much now chassis bolts and i think there is a oil pipe to disconnect that might be it, unless there is some bubba work to deal with. My plan as you know now is to do the tub,hood,fenders,seats,grill and screen and send the entire drive train for evaluation and repair/restoration hopefully with Jerry (must give a bell soon). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jeep Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 cheque the date of your jeep as late pedals did not have the cast type the plane ones had a type of grip tape on them you can simulate this with grit sand in the primer then paint the top coat in green i had to make the ones on my late war time jeep and my next ford is the same and deep mud exhaust pipe you can make this from an m38 jeep with a bit of cutting and welding 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jeep Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 found some old photos when i was doing the usmc jeep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviem Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 Hi Jerry yes mine are the late type no nobbles. not sure if i have seen any later repro types. i also understand the front floor pan differs for the deep mud type exhaust. hopefully give you a ring soon so you can get your hands on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzH Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 19 hours ago, sirhc said: I found it much easier wiring my tub with it on its side. I wired everything and then put it on the chassis. I found the same, do the wiring when the tub is off. I also built a jig on wheels to make it easier to move move around to get access 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviem Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Thank you this seems to be the way forward in lots of ways, wiring, repairs, welding. i managed to get a set of 4 heavy duty trolly wheels from work i am sure something can be rigged together with a decent sized pallet. Thanks to everyone for help and advice Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hall Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) A good idea I’ve not tried myself yet is to buy 2 cheap engine stands with a single or double long box section leg. Buy a length or two of box section of the next size down and connect the 2 together with the right distance apart to mount the tub. This gives you a very professional rotisserie that can be used for lots of different vehicles. something like this would work https://www.manomano.co.uk/p/car-engine-stand-support-mount-heavy-duty-swivel-transmission-workshop-gearbox-182308 To end up with something like this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heavy-duty-rollover-jig-rotisserie-on-wheels-mobile-fits-any-vehicle/133183471143?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=133183471143&targetid=1001986947744&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007079&campaignid=10199638303&mkgroupid=107296312292&rlsatarget=aud-629407027905:pla-1001986947744&abcId=1145987&merchantid=115730036&gclid=CjwKCAiA7939BRBMEiwA-hX5J0C6ZmnpqGtJPfigjNxS6_qSzfYmNdWJeZ1mA1sYMGB7eN7_aDqg-hoC_8YQAvD_BwE&pageci=7cc3faba-8ef7-40c4-9384-3ff51f62aaea Edited November 20, 2020 by Chris Hall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviem Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Jerry where can I get those pedals? Was the accelerator different too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jeep Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 hours ago, steviem said: Jerry where can I get those pedals? Was the accelerator different too. just fix the ones you have that what i do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviem Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Wouldn't know where to start they are distorted, should I send them up with the rest? Reckon the pedals will be original. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jeep Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, steviem said: Wouldn't know where to start they are distorted, should I send them up with the rest? Reckon the pedals will be original. leave them one or send them to me got some time next week can do them for you just post them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviem Posted November 20, 2020 Author Share Posted November 20, 2020 Ok, I will put them back on once tub is off, may ring you over the weekend if it's alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviem Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 Found one here that the same D O D as mine, https://www.milweb.net/webvert/a5024/99539 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steviem Posted November 22, 2020 Author Share Posted November 22, 2020 The damage to the pedals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hall Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 ooooh she be ugly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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