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I've just messaged the RLC Museum to let them know, along with the BBC link - Fort Paull also has one of the few remaining RCT Berlin Military Train carriages which might be of interest and is certainly worth saving....

Duncan.

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asking the obvious, I guess it's the beverleys size that makes transport a real headache.  From the bbc article am I right in thinking that it has moved previously just not very far?  And not knowing the area where is the nearest air museum of any size which might be able to give the old girl a secure future?

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The Beverley was dismantled and  assembled twice first time in 1983 and brought to the museum of army transport and secondly when the museum closed and moved to fort paull As to the berlin carriage  the RLC had the chance to have it in 2003 and to be blunt they could not have cared less  as some of you will not have heard what l said in the interview today l explained the problems when taking on the Beverley  only three  options the scrapman  fort paull and Elvington air museum  fort paull offered the most l would have preferred Elvington 

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The RAF museum at HENDON had  a complete Beverley which went for  scrap the  last Beverley's fate will lay in who wants it and who has the cash The Berlin dining carriage would need some one with funds to move it. To a lot of military personal the carriages were a symbol of the cold war

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1 hour ago, ferretfixer said:

The Carriage. There is an small RE Railway Museum just outside Bordon Hants. Would they not like the Carriage?

Another couple of potential homes? 

paulob1's Cold War Museum. 

The National Railway Museum. 

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1 hour ago, wally dugan said:

The RAF museum at HENDON had  a complete Beverley which went for  scrap the  last Beverley's fate will lay in who wants it and who has the cash The Berlin dining carriage would need some one with funds to move it. To a lot of military personal the carriages were a symbol of the cold war

Regarding the carriage move. That would provide a splendid Training Exercise for loading & Transportation. For a TA Reserve unit Perhaps?

Shame about the Bev. I remember seeing loads of these in Bahrain as a Kid. When My Father was attached to 3 Para at Muharroq. The R.A,F base, which is still active today.

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As far as l know the military has not got a trailer big enough to move the carriage when it was moved to Beverley  and then to fort paull it was done by a specialist  private contractor so yet again it comes down to money. If the military could have done the  job you can bet l would have used them when it arrived at Beverley the railway  specialist from the military helped lay track and move it into place

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Yes money!....a problem for a LOT of Us!

I'm certain a small privately owned railway enthusiast museum / branch line set up.  Would be interested in acquiring it?

It would have to be cheap. Probably reach it's value in weight for scrap weighing in? It wouldnt make much more I would suggest. Due to as you have said. The transportation costs involved.  Add that in, & a working privately run railway set up. Would most likely be the only party that it would be of use to?

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Probably looking at £1500 in movement costs by one of the main hauliers, Reids or Allelly's etc.

If the carriage is continental that may limit potential sites, due to interest or lack of for foreign vehicles.

There is also the issue of Continental stock being larger than UK and may not fit the loading gauge.

The only UK railway that comes to mind is the Nene Valley near Peterborough they do operate some Continental stock..

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UK heritage railways mostly use vacuum brake in normal service, but the Berlin coach will be air brake, and the two are not compatible, so that's another potential problem.

Photographs suggest that there is a considerable amount of external body damage, and since the coach has been standing for up to 20 years, there is likely to be significant mechanical damage as well. Restoration could be rather expensive, especially since it is very unlikely that any parts could be sourced within the UK.

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I have been told that there are a number  legal issues to be resolved regards some of the items which l expected as  it will not be straight  for ward so it will be a few months be for anything is resolved

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On 1/24/2020 at 10:18 AM, wally dugan said:

The RAF museum at HENDON had  a complete Beverley which went for  scrap the  last Beverley's fate will lay in who wants it and who has the cash 

Contrary to popular belief, the RAF Museum has never owned a Beverly.

The RAF parked one up at RAF Hendon as a gate guardian, after they finally moved out and many months of badgering by the museum a team was sent to inspect it. The team concluded it was too badly corroded internally and thus the airframe was scrapped before it was ever passed on to the museum.

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Hi Everyone!   I have joined this forum to find out specifically if anyone can help me with how to contact the owners of Fort Paull about the BeverleyXB259 there. (I'm not looking to buy it!!)

The reason is my father flew as an Air Signaller on the Beverley planes between 1954 and 1962 and on 35 out of the 49 produced. He was planning a trip from Somerset this Easter to go with my husband (we're in West Yorkshire) and see the plane.

We were shocked to hear of the museum's closure! 

My Dad is 83 and this was possibly the last time he could make this journey. He has also been writing his autobiography about his life in the RAF with heavy emphasis on this particular period of his life. He has told me that seeing this plane would mean an awful lot to him. I have promised him I will do my best to try and make this happen!! 

I also plan to contact the Hull Daily Mail after seeing their recent article. Can anyone advise me please?

Many thanks.

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HELEN l would suggest you contact gilbert baitson on 01482 500500  and talk to MICHAEL   BAITSON as they are dealing with  fort paull and the items therein

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I hope your father can get to see this aircraft. There are quite a few serving and retired RAF on the forum who know what these aircraft mean to us. I worked on Tornado F3 for 10 years and there’s now only a few left, it reminds me of some fun times.

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