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No worries. Does no harm to be cautious. Though in reality there was no "added value" as I bid less than £10 (though would have been prepared to pay more).


Thanks for sharing the pictures of your H&B horn. Details such as the  rib behind the rolled edge look identical.



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Last summer, inspired by various posts on this forum, I thought that I would have a go at cleaning out the Karrier petrol tank. Molasses were bought from the local country store and diluted down. The wasps were fascinated by the whole affair. After several weeks in the tank, which was periodically rolled from side to side, the festering brew was drained into pails. It's true to say that I was less than impressed with the results. 



Another forum regular (Mr Pittock) had mentioned having tanks acid washed so I thought I would give that a go. The tank was delivered at the beginning of June (just before I returned to Bristol) and was ready for collection by the middle of July. I had said that I wasn't in any particular hurry for it. Well, what a transformation! 

So I'm back in Suffolk for a few days and have sealed the inside of the tank with "slosh". My godfathers, that's got expensive!  But now the eco warriors are adulterating our petrol with ethanol, you can't be too careful. 



After it's little adventure the tank was not looking its best, so a bit of a sand and a repaint was required. 


Meanwhile, at the other end of the paint shop:


Leyland bonnet. I didn't know David could move so quickly as when I pointed the camera in his direction. 

In other news I've refitted the front mudguards and started painting the top surfaces. 




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My brief to Suffolk is now at an end but not before refitting the petrol tank. 





I'm still in two minds about the orientation. This is the position it was in when I received the lorry but period images show it mounted differently.


IMG_2330.thumb.JPG.2fa682c4ba36f1656c83066716b35d71.JPGIt will just squeeze on this way round but the tank is only partly seated on the near side saddle with the strap hard up on the seam. 

Perhaps this reproduction tank is a little short or maybe in civilian use the tank was mounted differently.

One of the last jobs was to sand off and topcoat the front mudguards. Mercifully it's not flying insect suicide season in our corner of Suffolk. 


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That tank is remarkably like the Dennis tank. I guess it was an available standard of the period. Dennis mounted the tank with the filler on the rhs and the sump and tap just outside the tank saddle so just the same as in your manual. All looking very nice. You will be out and about next year!DSCN3280c.jpg.4945fbfc2bdf76e2952e2f0f25a9c661.jpg

Steve 😁

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48 minutes ago, Old Bill said:

That tank is remarkably like the Dennis tank. DSCN3280c.jpg.4945fbfc2bdf76e2952e2f0f25a9c661.jpg

Steve 😁

I don't have photos to hand, but the Leyland tank is also very similar. Only significant difference: the Leyland tank is mounting on wooden saddles that form part of the seat box whereas the Karrier and Dennis have the tank mounted on cast brackets bolted directly to the chassis. 


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1 hour ago, Old Bill said:

That tank is remarkably like the Dennis tank. I guess it was an available standard of the period. Dennis mounted the tank with the filler on the rhs Steve 😁

Not always, on our N-type the filler is under the passenger side seat, though the fuel outlet is on the right hand (carbutettor) side. 

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On 1/25/2021 at 11:31 AM, andypugh said:

I emailed the local planning officer (I have had previous contact with him).


Hi Andy


For it to be listed by Historic England it would need to be of importance nationally, although contribution to the national war effort may help the building make the grade.  I recall the site of a large munitions works near Thorp Arch was scheduled recently.  The guides used by Historic England to determine if a building is listable is online at https://historicengland.org.uk/images-books/publications/dlsg-industrial/heag134-industrial-buildings-lsg/


Its interesting that the building appears to date from 1917, or at least part of it does.


We may, emphasis on the may, develop a local list of buildings of interest in the future so it may be suitable for that if not.


Unfortunately we’ve not got the capacity at the present time to put buildings forward for listing, but if you’ve got good knowledge of the company and their role in the war effort it would be worth giving it a go.  The forms are online at



The munitions works near Thorpe Arch may be referring to Barnbows....?

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Now that got your attention. I turned my attention to the radiator overflow which had been blanked off with a rubber disk backed up by a steel washer. So a new 1/2" solder nipple was required. This and the petrol fittings are all the same size so I planned to make 5. Then David spotted that they are the same size on the Leyland (water heating on intake manifold) and on the Ransomes Wizard stationary engines that are being restored. 

So five became thirteen. And one more for luck. 





Now I need to find an off cut of brass to make two more nuts.

1/2" diameter steel arrived while I was in the city; I've been waiting for that to complete the radiator stay.


Trial fitting


After its turn in the paint shop. Sorry, not the best picture.

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