Nick Johns Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) The well known former range wreck Churchill tank that was buried, then unearthed, since lain abandoned covered in undergrowth for years up on the South Downs has now been recovered by two Foden wreckers, ..it is apparently going to a museum to be put on display, don't know where yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Oja9nopz48&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR33go42sktDkoqJLfYgDt5rE2d857ftHTeUU3cmAmS7RWsc9x-Q8e3xo4o Info below about the history of this Churchill tank https://www.tracesofwar.com/sights/77185/Remains-Churchill-MK2-Tank.htm Edited September 4, 2019 by Nick Johns 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1950 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) Syncronised Fodens, powered by a brace of Eagles. A problem with items like that lying in accesable isolated places is they vanish without trace. Edited September 2, 2019 by john1950 addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 What dreadful music at the start of the video. My opinion is that it should have remained where it was. What museum has it gone to ? It is very unlikely that this Churchill will be restored to static never mind running condition. Been there with one much better than this riddled corps..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 58 minutes ago, Bob Grundy said: What dreadful music at the start of the video. My opinion is that it should have remained where it was. What museum has it gone to ? It is very unlikely that this Churchill will be restored to static never mind running condition. Been there with one much better than this riddled corps..... I very much agree , at least it was 'real' living history , removal just makes the countryside less WW2 and more boring , all too green.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 how many people got to see it on the downs, much better to restore it and put it on display. it's also been slowly stripped of parts over the years, how much longer before there was a hull and nothing more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super6 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 " 9 hours ago, john1950 said: A problem with items like that lying in accessible isolated places is they vanish without trace. It has now! Begs the question, What museum? I walked the South downs Way a few years back now and must have been within half a mile of the tank hulk, didn't even know it was there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adream Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 This is crazy, it's been a popular landmark since it was unearthed years ago, you only have to see the path that has been created to the site to see how popular it is with walkers and explorers. Its totally thoughtless just to turn up and remove it, many thousands of people knew it was there, it was NOT just lost to history it was a historical landmark IN CONTEXT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul connor Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) It is on it's way to a French museum so it would seem. As it was a target for training for Dunkirk (not D-Day) it is being incorporated into a display of that period. Edited September 4, 2019 by paul connor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel7 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, paul connor said: As it was a target for training for Dunkirk (not D-Day) I don't understand this. Unless I'm missing something [always possible 😊] I think your source has crossed wires here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I know am getting old but l thought the first Churchill tanks came into use after DUNKIRK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 32 minutes ago, Noel7 said: I don't understand this. Unless I'm missing something [always possible 😊] I think your source has crossed wires here. Paul probably means Dieppe not Dunkirk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 hours ago, paul connor said: It is on it's way to a French museum so it would seem. As it was a target for training for Dunkirk (not D-Day) it is being incorporated into a display of that period. The A22 Churchill was not even in service in 1940. The country did not train for the Dunkirk evacuation.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 so basically someone has bought it from the landowner and flogged it to someone else. wish i'd have thought of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul connor Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Richard has seen my mistake there! And corrected me. Oopps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Hall Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Agreed, I think he means Dieppe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryb Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I find it amazing that we as a country are so keen to 'flog on' our history to make a few quid. What once was accessible to most for free, is now 'pay to view' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Much is up in the air until the BREXIT situation dust settles , presently - export to within the EU would apply. It could be that the hulk has National Historical Significance , therefore a Open General Export License (OGEL) may be required - full export or even a temporary 'loan' .. The new 'owners' may be in a race to get it across the English Channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruxy Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 NB. Transport items (Cultural Goods) over 50 years of age. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/export-art-antiques-and-cultural-goods-special-rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchFuzee Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Interesting to see how many have survived in the UK, from range targets to restored:- http://www.armourinfocus.co.uk/a22new/register/thelot.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 hours ago, MatchFuzee said: Interesting to see how many have survived in the UK, from range targets to restored:- http://www.armourinfocus.co.uk/a22new/register/thelot.htm That website is overdue for updating as many of those Churchills have moved on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchFuzee Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Richard Farrant said: That website is overdue for updating as many of those Churchills have moved on. Moved on but hopefully still in existence and better still, in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, MatchFuzee said: Moved on but hopefully still in existence and better still, in the UK. Not all of them are still here, one shown at Bovington, was restored, went to California, then moved again and resides in Queensland Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels v Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 This is possibly the best site for keeping track of where tanks are http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Panzers.html 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Jeeper Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 (edited) Here it is on BBC Sussex; Edited September 5, 2019 by Jolly Jeeper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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