johann morris Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Here's a question that I could really do with some with as I know nothing about the subject. Looking forward, I am going to need some intercoms for my project panzer, what is the easiest way of achieving this. I saw this clansman radio on fleabay and although the radio side of it may not be appropriate, the throat mike and head phones would be ideal. So can anyone help. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 You can make a basic intercom using Clansman crew boxes. Look on eBay there are sellers who sell kits, but you only really need an IB3 and a couple of ( CB2s (Crew box 2 set) and 12 way cables etc. You could then use those headsets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johann morris Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 Great, thanks for the reply, I will check it out. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johann morris Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 Is this set up what I m after https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clansman-MILITARY-Vehicle-IB3-INTERCOM-HARNESS-SYSTEM-Grade-A-NON-ANR/312333635504?hash=item48b8890fb0:g:eoQAAOxyqUpQ8yDL It seems a lot of boxes for the driver to talk to the commander or am I just being simple. The 2 boxes with the light green buttons I assume are crew boxes? In the original and I think in British tanks, they had a head set and mike, the Germans had throat mikes with a simple talk button on. You can tell that I don't know the technicalities, the clansman seems far too complex for my needs but maybe that's the only way to do it? Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 If you want to use the headsets and throat mikes you posted in the first photo then these boxes are the easiest and cheapest way to do it. If you can find the cables you can make up the intercom kit yourself quite cheaply. There will be other civilian options but you would end up with modern headsets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johann morris Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 I think that I will go for it, thanks. It may seem that I am jumping ahead but I need to plan these things in my head up front, so thanks again. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonb Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 The headset you first posted is specifically for the 349 radio as shown although any Clansman headset will work with any Clansman radio. I wouldn't recommend them for an intercom as you have to use the PTT (transmit) button to talk. All the other headsets use a PTT in a small box which has a switch on it for "Live Mic" which allied with the IB3 etc allows you to talk to each other without pressing buttons. Much better for all concerned especially the driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johann morris Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 The original picture was really just a starting point as the throat mike attracted me. I was going to get the standard headsets but could a throat mike be rigged to work with these, it's just that the Germans used a throat mike. If not then standard headsets it is. Can the cabling be extended so that I could hide the boxes as they would have been down with the radio operator? Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johann morris Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 Which one of these would you recommend https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clansman-MILITARY-Vehicle-IB3-INTERCOM-HARNESS-SYSTEM-Grade-A-NON-ANR/312333635504 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLANSMAN-MILITARY-Vehicle-ANR-INTERCOM-HARNESS-SYSTEM-used-tested-working/152909368028 The one with ANR doesn't have the IB3 box. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonb Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 It isn't that difficult to rework headsets if you can solder delicate wiring. The Clansman stuff is tinsel wire and can be a pain to work with. The connections are widely available via google. I wouldn't use the pictured 349 headset in a panzer as there is only one earpiece and I suspect you'll need two if only to act as ear defenders! (I know I do in my Ferret). I'm afraid I don't know how well the throat mic would interface with the ANR system. Clansman headsets come in three flavours, infantry, B vehicle and A vehicle. The A vehicle ones, the rarest, are probably the best as ear defenders and the infantry ones the least. As one would expect. Be aware there are headsets out there without microphones, I think the come from the Warrior. Very good as ear defenders. I've no experience with the ANR system so I don't know how effective it is, others will no doubt chime in with their experiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Herbert Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I strongly favour the Clansman ANR system (Active Noise Reduction). The boxes have gold coloured fronts, though for some reason not the 'Driver's Box' (which is labelled ANR if it is). Tanks are much noisier than say Ferrets and the ANR system really works. I don't believe there is an ANR headset/throat mic combination but there is, as Gordonb said, an ANR headset with no mic which are cheap and easy to find and could be used with a hand held mic, plugged into the other hole of the crew box. That would make the commander a bit less obviously modern than the standard boom mic. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johann morris Posted March 19, 2019 Author Share Posted March 19, 2019 Thanks for your advise folks, it is really appreciated. I have ordered the ANR system and a couple of headsets with mikes attached. All I will need is some extensions for the cabling but that can wait. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 I use the Racal ANR headsets in my Ferret. The microphone is super directional and does not pick up background noise. Id the genuine wind shield is fitted, you almost have to have the microphone touching your lips. But when you do, it is very "readable" by the other users. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johann morris Posted December 31, 2019 Author Share Posted December 31, 2019 Thanks Dean. What about using throat mikes ? Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 I cant add much to what is listed above..... the Clansman throat mike and single earpiece setup uses the standard 7 pin Clansman plug and would interface with any Clansman intercom system. The only down side is the PTT is built into the throat mike/headset assembly and would require pushing to talk. I guess this could be "overcome" with a soldering iron....?? I'd run some tests first before committing to too much money. It is worth noting that on the Clansman 349 throat mike, only one of the "blobs" is active.... the other is just to balance the assembly on the neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 type "throat mic" on ebay and you'll get thousands of hits. it might be easier and cheaper to get a motorbike intercom kit and fit it inside whatever headset you want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johann morris Posted January 1, 2020 Author Share Posted January 1, 2020 Thanks for all the comments, as I have already bought a clansman system I have ordered a throat mike, head set which hopefully I can rearrange to look like a ww2 panzer set. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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