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I have been busy so I have only had chance to grab a hour here and there.

I have cut the brake cable guards to size and cleaned and primed some parts. I have continued working on the belly plates, the 2 rear plates are reasonably straight forward with a right angle corner to start marking out from and these are more or less done apart from drilling holes and cutting the slots for the brake cables.

The front plates on the other hand are a nightmare, there are no right angle corners and 3 folds across the middle. The patterns are all damaged to some degree and it has taken a lot of time to work out all the measurements and angles. I folded the first plate up tonight and it is looking to be a good shape and size although some folds will need adjusting and it will need a lot of fitting. I am going to make up a second set of plates up for someone so won't fold up the second front plate until I am happy with the first and have used it as a pattern to cut the second set out.

Peter.

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I have nearly finished the belly plates, I just need a hole saw to cut the 2 inspection holes and I need to make the covers. When I checked the fitment I noticed that the front plates didn't line up, after checking I found the original plates were out by 1/4" so I will leave them.

I have also got a set of springs for one suspension unit primed after soaking in molasses.

Peter.

 

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Unfortunately I have been busy with other things so not much progress.

I popped over to Newark military expo on Sunday with Alastair and court up with a lot of people but was a bit disappointed with what was there and didn't manage to buy anything.

I got some more parts off Alistair on the way back and some more measurements including a rear corner upright for the engine cover so I can make a pair.

Sunday afternoon I did manage to get the second set of bogie springs out of the molasses and cleaned up and primed and a 3rd set back in.

I now have a couple jobs for Alastair to do and some parts to make for another new Loyd project that will go a long way towards paying for the brake cables.

Peter.

 

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With the temperature picking up a bit, Sunday I had a look to see what was soaking in molasses. I pulled out 4 inner springs which I cleaned up and primed also I found the rear brake back plates which I also pulled out, the worst one I cleaned and primed while I thought I would try to repair the better one. These had come from Alastair and have had the edge which was paper thin cut off to release the brake drums. The plan was to cut the centre out and weld it into a back plate with a good rim. After a lot of thought I made a simple jig to mark the cuts on both back plates using a block of wood with 4 nails and a hole for a pencil. Once marked I cut them out with a grinder clamped the 2 parts together and stick welded them together about a 1 1/2" at a time on 4 points and on both sides trying not to get to much heat in to it. There is still an area of corrosion  to sort out on the centre.

Peter.

 

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I have been sorting through parts to see what I need. One unknown was the gearbox so I have split it from the engine and have started pulling it apart. First thoughts are there is a lot of play on the clutch release shaft and there is a ridge on the shaft it's self. The first, second gear and top gear which slide have a fair amount of wear and some damage. What I can see of the bottom gear cluster/ shaft look's to be good. The bearings seem to turn smoothly. The gearbox top seems to be the same as a bren gun carrier with the 2 lugs on the opposite side to a standard truck top although one lug has been cut down slightly. Next I need to figure out how to remove the U,J, as the last ford gearbox didn't have one.

Peter.

 

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Peter, undo the lock wire on the bolts and that part of the UJ falls away, and then there should be a bolt in the centre of the output shaft to undo and then this half should pull away. The lug that has been cut down on the gearbox top is probably so the sheet metal gearbox cover can clear as the sides of this taper to the width of the gearbox when in place.

The Ford boxes can have many different configurations, with regards to what side a handbrake is mounted, whether it has one at all, whether it is British manufacture or American , with regards to any lugs protruding,  Cheers Andrew.

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Thanks Andrew. I have never seen a U,J, with a hole through the centre.

I followed Andrew's instructions and had the U,J, off in about 5 minutes, I then removed the rubber mounting plate off the back of the gearbox. Looking at the pictures the rear bearing looks to be made in Germany.

Peter.

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Thursday night I popped over to Alastair's to get some measurements and borrow his body support brackets. I have ordered some metal ready to make them. While I was a Alastair's we offered a section of body up to his chassis. 

I have also found a gear leaver that I have been looking for, for over a week as I will need the reverse lock and securing cap parts. It is pictured next to the Loyd gear lever that came with the project.

Peter.

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I have cleaned up the last of the suspension springs. I still have 4 ball ends to do. I have put some of the track guide plates into the molasses to clean next.

I have striped the truck gear leaver of the parts I need and cleaned and primed them, I managed to save the gear lever nob by using a canvas filter strap to undo it. 

I have finished stripping the gearbox and although there is more wear than I would like there are no major problems, the bearings look and feel good. I have decided to rebuild it with new clutch released bushes and shaft as it won't be doing lots of miles under heavy loads.

Peter.

 

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I have made a start on the base plate for the gear leaver, just need to drill a hole and then slot it out.

I have also cut out some plates for the body support brackets. The T section for the body support brackets should be 2" by 1 1/2" but I could only get 50mm by 50mm so I will have to cut 1/2" off one side with the grinder.

Peter.

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I still had a few little jobs to finish while the chassis was upside down. The first was to replace a missing rivet then shape the belly plate over the head of the rivet. This was done by heating the plate up and hammering a pice of tube over it. I then  checked the final fit of the belly plates which isn't good on the original pattern plates, lots of wide gaps! I was then able to remove the belly plates, turn the chassis over and around so I can now work on the body support brackets then the driver's floor which will involve removing the front axle.

Peter.

 

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I have got the bottom of the body support brackets welded up and fitted. I have left the rear ones long so I can lay a straight edge on them. I should have left the front one's long but had cut them before I had thought about that.

Now need to cut a half inch strip off about 24ft of T steels!😵👎

Peter.

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I set to this afternoon and cut all the T section steel to length and then cut a half inch strip off all but 2 of them as my back started to complain. Not the best way to spend Sunday afternoon but a bad job almost out the way.

Peter.

 

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Wow, I hope your cutting discs come at a discount! Good work, but rather you than me. The restoration is really inspirational and much appreciated by an old armchair warrior like myself.

Keep up the good work.

 

Steve.

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Thanks for the positive comments. Discs aren't cheap but was probably the cheapest and quickest way to do the job.

I had to visit a mate in Lincoln hospital on Monday afternoon so when I had done I popped round to see Alistair and borrowed some of his original pattern body panels to give me hole patterns.

The pictures show some of the parts layed out on Alistair's Loyd.

Peter.

 

 

 

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