Deathwing Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) I passed my category H some years back, and am presently thinking about buying a small piece of land near where I live to build a garage on to house an FV432. However, access to the land is over the pavement and I am very wary about the potential to cause damage to the paving/roads. You can see the pavement in the attached image. Does anyone with experience of driving FV432s know if (with proper pads fitted and driving at the 20mph limit) they are likely to cause any damage to the roads, and furthermore whether they are likely to wreck that pavement if they mount it to access the garage? I am thinking about asking the council for a dropped kerb (perhaps without mentioning I intend to put a tank there!) Merlin Edited July 7, 2018 by Deathwing Added image of pavement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terryb Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 crossing a tarmac path without turning should be ok, but......... not advised in this heat as tarmac will be too soft DO NOT turn, as it will lift the tarmac. with my council, it is illegal to cross a pathway to gain access, unless an authorised dropped kerb has been constructed (here they have to be concrete) oh, and you have to pay for it! There was an instance some years back, where a chap damaged a tarmac path by driving a 432 across it at 45 degrees-got sued for £6700 plus costs........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex-boy Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 I think a dropped kerb is a requirement everywhere and certainly sensible in this situation. Could save problems in the future, as you will have done it legally. Good luck with the project. Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathwing Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share Posted July 8, 2018 Thanks - I'll try and persuade the council that a dropped kerb will be necessary to park my tank (and that I've made the request while sober!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surveyor Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 You will needs roads consent assuming the road and footpath have been adopted also you may need planning. For the crossing you may have to employ an approved contractor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 You may also have fun getting planning permission for the garage ... Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 On 7/9/2018 at 10:30 PM, andym said: You may also have fun getting planning permission for the garage ... Andy Yes, you might have been better mentioning Tracked vehicle access. Rather than 'Tank'!...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surveyor Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Strange my son calls my Land Rover a tank, think I could confuse the planners, wonder what he would say if I did bring home a tracked tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley01 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I’ve come into this topic a bit late, but here’s my thoughts as a person who used to agree to dropped kerb applications for a local authority.... Be honest up front, a track-laying vehicle is fine provided it is road legal. If the jobs done correctly the neighbours can’t complain! Planning application normally only required if you are on a classified road. It’s not just a dropped kerb you get for your money, it’s also extra protection to the numerous utilities that lie just below the footway. You will definitely need the highway authority, or it’s approved contractor to carry out the work, due to public liability insurance reasons ( usually a figure of £5m) . This won’t be cheap and at the end of the day you won’t end up "owning" the section of altered footway, it’s still the highway authority's. One advantage of doing the job correctly is that the dropped kerb "protects" your right of access to your land and any vehicle parking across it is causing a legal obstruction. Good Luck..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winchman Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Personally I would get the kerb dropped and apply for a garage I am no expert but why would you mention the vehicle type? I feel it may give some one more to object to, but its just a vehicle and as long as the estate has no covenants on vehicle type / weights I dont see a problem, often the said covenants are never enforced as no one wants to pay the legal costs. Until recently we had a local bloke with the biggest Zil I have seen in the garden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtskull Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 15 hours ago, Stanley01 said: You will definitely need the highway authority, or it’s approved contractor to carry out the work, due to public liability insurance reasons ( usually a figure of £5m) . This won’t be cheap and at the end of the day you won’t end up "owning" the section of altered footway, it’s still the highway authority's. Admittedly this was 18 years ago but when I dropped the kerb (and lowered the footway) for access to my drive, the local authority allowed me to carry out the work myself; the only work carried out by an outside contractor was the final surfacing. All that was involved was a site visit from a man from the highways department, who listened as I explained what I proposed to do, expressed surprise that I wanted to do it myself, gave me a specification to follow and told me to go ahead. I'm pretty sure that nobody ever even came back to check that it had been done properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surveyor Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 That was true, but now you need a ticket to dig and reinstate, it is supposedly to prevent holes in the highway having to be dug up several times to sort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diana and Jackie Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 14 hours ago, Surveyor said: That was true, but now you need a ticket to dig and reinstate, it is supposedly to prevent holes in the highway having to be dug up several times to sort Anyone digging on a street or highway under the Roads and Streetworks Act 1991 has to have a licence. In a nutshell this was introduced by the Government in order to prevent a road or pavement being incorrectly re-instated, thus causing subsidence or potholes. It was also to prevent a road or pavement being dug up, reinstated and dug up a few months later by a different utility to the first. The fact of the matter is the dodgy practices of the past still continue with some contractors totally ignoring the legislation - especially some councils own staff !!!! Diana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarland Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 15 hours ago, Diana and Jackie said: The fact of the matter is the dodgy practices of the past still continue with some contractors totally ignoring the legislation - especially some councils own staff !!!! Well there's a surprise!!! NOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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