martylee Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 That's a really nice toy collection. And you don't look very old in the pictures either! ;-) It was fun to see these photos. My girlfriend isn't very fond of me & the kid buying weapons (real toy, plastic that is! :-D) But we too collect them, and play with them. As I say, let the kids finish playing with guns now and they won't start a war later. :oops: Again, very nice collections both of you presented. Hope you have as much fun with it as I have with mine. Marty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny666 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 oh yeah fun is had with mine. when i am not been asked to move them around so that they arent at the front door anymore lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 or run out of ammo That - in my days - would have counted as doing something seriously wrong...... :oops: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 or run out of ammo I always figured the SMG bayonet killed by making the enemy laugh themselves to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 If you were close enough to the bad guys to need a bayonet on an SMG you had done something SERIOUSLY wrong........ :-o :-o If it had ever happened to me, I'd have suggested post-Falklands. We used up all our war stocks of 9mm and 7.62 and had to but in to replenish from India and Pakistan, whose ammunition was widely considered to be extremely poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 from India and Pakistan, whose ammunition was widely considered to be extremely poor. Yes... see that on the telly recently with .50cal ammo supplied by India, the guys were continually getting stoppages in combat due to poor manufacture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny666 Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Murphys Law: 12. Never forget that your weapon/ammo was made by the lowest bidder. sad but true unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiketheBike Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 Geeesss...how do you get that lot under your bed and hidden from your parents? I spent a lot of time hiding my Gat gun from mine, and I thought I had a bumnal there with my darts AND pellets! hahahaha.....the forum does not like @rsenal!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 Geeesss...how do you get that lot under your bed and hidden from your parents? I spent a lot of time hiding my Gat gun from mine, and I thought I had a bumnal there with my darts AND pellets! hahahaha.....the forum does not like @rsenal!!! Mick, it's ok I know what he's got... that's why my wallet's always empty :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted August 31, 2007 Share Posted August 31, 2007 You think you know :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Thread Edited... photo links repaired... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Murphys Law: 12. Never forget that your weapon/ammo was made by the lowest bidder. sad but true unfortunately The Indians also supplied a load of 9mm a few years ago, except is was marked as pistol and loaded as SMG. Very suprised faces on the ranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 This is one the lad hasn't got: But funnily enough I happen to have 3 of them..... :evil: :evil: :evil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest catweazle (Banned Member) Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Thats very nice collection,but for the people who are not familier with them you should really name them all,starting from the top left hand,:rofl::rofl::rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevpol Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 my small collection, only one missing is the Lee Enfield Mk4 I got from Ryton Arms, am off to Kemble to add to it, I am thinking of a Bren, but will probably change my mind when there!!!! The M16 ia deactivated blank firer, the browning and the barretta 92f are also blankfirers The Mortar Tube is a Canadian 60mm, Enjoy Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmite!! Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 The M16 ia deactivated blank firer, Enjoy Mark Hi Mark.. is the M16 a Jaeger??? I'm after a mag for one... Cheers Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevpol Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 yes, it is a Jaeger, no mags though. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambo1969 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I'm after a bayonet for my sterling, interesting that a jungle carbine one fits. Is that the lee enfield carbine? Ref indian ammo, my brother lived in virginia USA and we bought a load of 7.62 and .303 indian ammo, non stop jams and miss drills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 I'm after a bayonet for my sterling, interesting that a jungle carbine one fits. Is that the lee enfield carbine?Ref indian ammo, my brother lived in virginia USA and we bought a load of 7.62 and .303 indian ammo, non stop jams and miss drills! The Lee Enfield 'Jungle Carbine' is the Number 5 rifle. Cut down barrel with flash hider and reduced woodwork. Kicks like a mule, and is acurate to about two feet, backwards. the early Stirling did fit the number 7 bayonet or the SLR one. The reason why you would want a bayonet on an SMG is still something that eludes me. If they get that close SURRENDER! The Indian's still make and use the Lee Enfeild number 1 rifle. Mind you the ammunition is like the leather, and you really DON'T want to know how they tan that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john fox Posted June 17, 2008 Share Posted June 17, 2008 (edited) I'm after a bayonet for my sterling, interesting that a jungle carbine one fits. the No5 jungle carbine bayonet was initially the issue bayonet for the Sterling - the ring size is larger and a standard SLR bayonet will not fit as you probably know. I bought a No5 and it looks fine on my Sterling although every ex Ferret crew memeber I have ever spoken too said the same thing - bayonets were never issued to vehicle crews and surrender was the preferred option. The No 5 bayonet has wooden handle whereas the later "proper" Sterling bayonet is actually a No5 bayonet but with the black metal handles from the standard SLR bayonet. I have never seen the metal one for sale anywhere and my research on bayonet collector forums suggests that one is really rare and a wood handled No5 has as much service pedigree as the later one anyway. The Sterling user manual refers to a No5 bayonet as well as the later one (I can't remember the correct designation but its something like Bayonet L2A2????) No5 bayonets are "rare" and expensive - that said they usually crop up on eBay (there are 2 on in australia at the moment) but expect to pay at least £100+ The Indians still make the No5 bayonet as mentioned and in that context you could get one as a "repro" via dealers in the USA eg: http://www.atlantacutlery.com/atlantacutlery/detail.aspx?ID=411 Edited June 17, 2008 by john fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papav66 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Hello, interesting pics & amongst them noticed the Alan Williams turret, if its yours what are your plans for that? cheers Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predictable Bob Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 We used up all our war stocks of 9mm and 7.62 and had to but in to replenish from India and Pakistan, whose ammunition was widely considered to be extremely poor. :argh: I did my basic training in 1976 and took a great deal of flak from the DS for firing the Sterling on auto (as did a few of the other guys). When we showed them that we weren't on auto we STILL got chewed out ! It was only after we'd left basic training that we discovered that they were using up a large batch of Indian ammo -...... As an aside I've never come across intended variance in 9mm parabellum ammo (i.e. 9mm for pistol or 9mm for SMG) Basically the 9mm is a high pressure round and increasing the charge to increase the range when used in an SMG is unnecessary and would be incredibly stupid not to mention dangerous ! In the hands of somebody that can shoot a standard 9mm round out of an issue Browning will hit a fig 11 at 100m - I'm sure that Neil can vouch for that. The increased sight base and steadier stance of somebody with an SMG will easily push the range to 200m with the same ammo. I suspect that the low and high power loads that people have encountered during their service are just the extremes resulting from a lack of quality control during manufacture :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 Yep - old Bob is right in what he says!! When used with home-sourced ammunition there was little if any variance. Fortunately for me I guess I never got to use the Indian/Pakistani manufactured rounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james-sas Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Resurecting a old thread Mark wheres the blank firing browning h.p from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferretfixer Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 The Indian Ammo problem was a result from the good old H.M.Government trying to save a few pennies. They though by buying in a few Million rounds of Indy 9mm they would make a good killing for cheap training. In the end, as a few member discovered whilst using it. The pressures varied hugely, & accuracy suffered as well as reliability issues. I had seperated cases (Ruptured cartridges) some virtually spitting out the muzzle & dropping 8-10 feet in front of me! Occasonaly, you would get a runaway gun. IE: The sub machine gun would continue to fire full auto without your finger on the trigger! This was due to weak chamber pressures failing to generate enough gas to blow the Breech block back far enough to engage on the sear. It blew it back , but it was only going back as far as JUST in front of the sear.! VERY disconcerting to say the least! In the end, it was policy to only fire Indy 9mm in Browning pistols. These worked from a closed & locked breech mech that was stronger & therefore safe to fire. In any event sometimes it blew the side back & functioned, sometimes it did not. This was obviously totaly unacceptable & eventualy it was all withdrawn & sea dumped. (In the days when ammo, guns, & weapon spares were allowed to be sea dumped!) Mike. :coffee: :argh: I did my basic training in 1976 and took a great deal of flak from the DS for firing the Sterling on auto (as did a few of the other guys). When we showed them that we weren't on auto we STILL got chewed out ! It was only after we'd left basic training that we discovered that they were using up a large batch of Indian ammo -...... As an aside I've never come across intended variance in 9mm parabellum ammo (i.e. 9mm for pistol or 9mm for SMG) Basically the 9mm is a high pressure round and increasing the charge to increase the range when used in an SMG is unnecessary and would be incredibly stupid not to mention dangerous ! In the hands of somebody that can shoot a standard 9mm round out of an issue Browning will hit a fig 11 at 100m - I'm sure that Neil can vouch for that. The increased sight base and steadier stance of somebody with an SMG will easily push the range to 200m with the same ammo. I suspect that the low and high power loads that people have encountered during their service are just the extremes resulting from a lack of quality control during manufacture :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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