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Evening All,

It's taken me some time but i have managed to get around to fitting the clansman intercoms into the radio's and get the whole lot fitted in to the hull. Once you start on an area, you soon realise that there are a lot more components needed than first thought.

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The cable from the aerial to the radio travels from the isolator, (light blue) to a junction box (red), along conduit (green), to a second junction box (red) and then into the radio (yellow). On the roof plate there is a light (mauve) and a further junction box in front of the radios and then there are whole lot of clamps that need making to hold everything on place. 

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There's still a lot of finishing to do but now that the complicated works done i can spend the cold evenings making the radio fronts look more like the originals.

The one thing that I would love to know, is how and where all the wiring for the radio was run in the original tank. I have several diagrams showing how to connect the system together but non that show how it was configured in a Panzer ll or where the transformers were situated. I suppose i will find the answer in the end, after more endless hours searching the net.

 

Jon

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13 hours ago, Funksammler said:

I have send you a PM with a link to the Panzer II radio manual which will hopefully answer most of your questions....

regards,

Funksammler

Thanks Funksammler,

It did indeed answer all my questions and more, of course it created some more work but hell, i don't have much else to do, apart from.....................come to think of it, i don't even want to start listing it all.

 

Jon

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13 hours ago, sirhc said:

Click the ... at the top of the post and choose edit from the menu.

Didn't the edit button always live along the bottom of the page, in the end i gave up but my computer illiterate wife came along and said "what do those dots do". Silly boy jonathan.

 

Jon

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1 hour ago, johann morris said:

Thanks Funksammler,

It did indeed answer all my questions and more, of course it created some more work but hell, i don't have much else to do, apart from.....................come to think of it, i don't even want to start listing it all.

 

Jon

Note that there was a bit of an evolution of the intercom installation from the pre-production versions with a turret induction ring (Ausf. a-c) to the introduction of the slip ring unit with the Ausf.A and finally the retro-fitting of the Kasten.Pz.10b in mid 1942, which allowed the intercom to operate independent of the transmitter.  So some of the details depend on the time period you wish to represent...

regards,

Funksammler

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Thanks again Funksammler,

I am trying to be as faithful to a production C version but before the up armouring and the replacement of the clam shell turret hatches, as I can so 1941 era. I have to draw a line on how accurate it is going to be as it would never get finished and i would get bogged down in too much detail, so what you have given me is perfect thanks. The more detail that i put in the tank the more i realise  how cramped it must have been.

Regards,

Jon

 

 

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Evening All,

It Took me most of Saturday to find the center of the turret ring on the hull floor and get the slip rig / rotary coupling bolted in place.

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Today, Sunday, we placed the turret on to the upper hull for the first time, progress me thinks. Then we took the CMP and Morris for a spin in the sun.

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The next job is to connect  the commanders seat support to the rotary coupling.

 

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I shall endeavour to put a little more information in the next update.

 

Jon 

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5 minutes ago, johann morris said:

Lots of thoughts but no solutions as yet. When the virus has abated and the world settles down, I will have to have them cast or find a set of originals .

jon

 

I don't know whether you've seen this (e-)book before,  it specifically deals with Wehrmacht vehicle track structures & designs - perhaps it would be of help?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Panzerketten-Gleisketten-deutschen-Kettenfahrzeuge-Weltkrieges/dp/3943883000
 

It's in German, but I'd be happy to translate any specific sections for you if needed.

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On 11/26/2020 at 7:28 PM, John F said:

I don't know whether you've seen this (e-)book before,  it specifically deals with Wehrmacht vehicle track structures & designs - perhaps it would be of help?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Panzerketten-Gleisketten-deutschen-Kettenfahrzeuge-Weltkrieges/dp/3943883000
 

It's in German, but I'd be happy to translate any specific sections for you if needed.

Thanks John, although I don't read or speak German I have ordered a copy, my wife likes challenges, she married me!

2 hours ago, welbike said:

Ok, I have an original book printed by the SAE board in 1944, so in English, I will see if there's anything in it about track metallurgics.

Cheers, 

Lex

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Much appreciated Lex, it might contain some interesting insights.

 

Jon

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1 minute ago, johann morris said:

Thanks John, although I don't read or speak German I have ordered a copy, my wife likes challenges, she married me!

Jon

Haha!
No worries, the offer's still there if she gets stuck... that sort of stuff is my daily work :-) 

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John seriously, I might need some help, thanks.

Evening All,

Forward, ever forward and to that end I have completed the support that connects the commanders seat to the rotary coupling on the hull floor. It can't be an exact copy of the original because I have had to modify it to suit my version of the electrical connection contained within.   

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Now don't laugh, I don't usually show the pigeon poo pictures but I have made an exception, before grinding.

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After grinding.

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And after painting.

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The support is bent in this unusual shape so that it misses the radio operators leg when the turret turns and yes the space is that limited.

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That's all for now.

As an after thought, I have Just constructed a lovely pie for tea. A layer of thick cut bacon, followed by a layer of mushrooms, then a layers of chicken, a layer of cranberry sauce, and finally a layer of sausage meat, with a nice thick chicken gravy poured over the top, topped off with nice red Leicester thick crust pastry. Bloody tasty, I can tell thee.

 

Jon

 

 

 

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And my wife has instructed me to tell you, that I made her a vegetarian quiche. Red Leicester pastry, with mushrooms, sugar snaps and sweet peppers, mixed with egg, pepper cream and more red Leicester topped with melted Cambozola.

There, done as instructed.

 

Jon

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