windsorguyone Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Hi All, First post about my new project... only thing I am not 100% sure about is what colour it is supposed to be; I would like to bring it back to original. I understand it went from Khaki Green... to Service Brown... to Olive Drab. Just not sure when those changes happened and how to find out what this one was. Bike numbers are: Engine: TL 50936 Frame: 3Hw 60936 Under Seat: TEC 743 Any help pointing me in the right direction would be awesome! Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) Hi. You have got your eng/frame numbers the wrong way round. Frame TL 50936 was part of contract C8886 for 3000 machines ordered in October 1944 and delivered by Feb 45. The number under your saddle TEC 7 43 (Triumph Engineering Co July 1943) is the date your frame was made. In 1944 the service colour was British Olive Drab (BS298)....To comply somewhat with the US colour. Engine 3HW 60936 is the matching engine for your frame. Ron Edited November 16, 2016 by Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windsorguyone Posted November 16, 2016 Author Share Posted November 16, 2016 Thank you Ron! So is this bike considered a '44 or '45? Also, is there any documentation to know where this bike would have been sent / unit it belonged to? Thanks again, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79x100 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 C8886 was specified for delivery at 850 machines per month commencing November 1944 commencing at TL50418. Delivery could have been later but is unlikley to have been earlier. It was certainly built to a 1944 contract. By this stage, and particularly in the case of the 3HW, many were sent to the Far East as part of the build up for the continuing war against Japan. There will be no surviving record of any subsequent allocation. The only clues that you might find would be in the form of workshop rebuld stamps etc. There is a reasonable chance particularly as it has matching numbers that it remained in reserve stock at RAOC Chilwell before being sold off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david dumble Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 I have an Italian kit for making a model of the 3HW. It has colour schemes for various units & periods. Italy 1944-45 flat olive drab, France 1944 flat olive drab. From the factory flat dark green. The Kit is Italeri No 7402 1:9 scale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) Sorry, but I wouldn't rely on descriptions from very old model kits, the manufacturers of modelling paint have had it wrong for the last 50 years or so, and only now some of the right colours are appearing on the market, but the studies of Mike Starmer and the like, have got us on the right track, strongly advise to order his books, they have colour swatches in the back, plus the Humbrol/Revell formula's to make paint samples, that you can then use to have paint mixed for your real bike. Last picture is of my reference books on the subject. Cheers, Lex Edited November 29, 2021 by welbike additional info 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchFuzee Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 British Vehicle Camouflage, 1939-45 Paint mixes:- https://www.mafva.org/british-vehicle-camouflage-1939-45/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenkinov Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Hi lovely looking bike . curios is it possible to get photos of the frame stamps\seat post stamps and engine stamps Jenkinov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberto Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Hello everyone, my name is Roberto from Italy and I'm starting to restore a 3hw. I'm looking, if possible, the original color code and the C number of the petrol tank. The frame number is TL45943 and the engine is 3HW 55943 maybe @Ron can help me This is the only piece that may still have the original color Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Hello Roberto. You have matching frame and engine. 45943 was the 476th bike from 4000 under contract S5340 and delivered in the second half of 1944. The tank census number is C5566443 and the colour at that time was Olive Drab....... (BS 298). Ron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roberto Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Thank you very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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