Jump to content

Restoring an Allis Chalmers 4 wheel loader


Recommended Posts

Hi

 

Im restoring an Allis Chalmers 645 4 wheel loader serial number 6435 B and WD number 00FU35

 

Im seeking some information on the british army specific build of these loaders. I have a PDF from US army of their depot service manual but the british version differs in engine - its got a Leyland (AEC) AV505 rather than Allis Chalmers own diesel and has a different air over hydraulic braking system.

 

Does anyone know where I might get a PDF or copy of the British Army Operators/Service manual?

 

Also seeking an AV505 manual for the engine - serial number AV505 5C 5573 A7502 - these were used in several variants of Leyland HGV vehicles.IMG_0634.jpg

 

Many thanks

Link to post
Share on other sites
Hi

 

Im restoring an Allis Chalmers 645 4 wheel loader serial number 6435 B and WD number 00FU35

 

Im seeking some information on the british army specific build of these loaders. I have a PDF from US army of their depot service manual but the british version differs in engine - its got a Leyland (AEC) AV505 rather than Allis Chalmers own diesel and has a different air over hydraulic braking system.

 

Does anyone know where I might get a PDF or copy of the British Army Operators/Service manual?

 

Also seeking an AV505 manual for the engine - serial number AV505 5C 5573 A7502 - these were used in several variants of Leyland HGV vehicles.[ATTACH=CONFIG]114107[/ATTACH]

 

Many thanks

lovely machine, nice to see plant being restored.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Hi

 

Im restoring an Allis Chalmers 645 4 wheel loader serial number 6435 B and WD number 00FU35

 

Im seeking some information on the british army specific build of these loaders. I have a PDF from US army of their depot service manual but the british version differs in engine - its got a Leyland (AEC) AV505 rather than Allis Chalmers own diesel and has a different air over hydraulic braking system.

 

Does anyone know where I might get a PDF or copy of the British Army Operators/Service manual?

 

Also seeking an AV505 manual for the engine - serial number AV505 5C 5573 A7502 - these were used in several variants of Leyland HGV vehicles.

 

Many thanks

 

A great machine. I used to do a lot of repair work on these Army versions, both Royal Engineers and local ranges had them. Could tell a few tales of jobs done on them too. If I recall, the workshop manual was the US version and we had a supplement for the AV505 engine. Sadly I do not have any manuals for them. Have you checked its service history? I would be interested to know.

 

regards, Richard

Link to post
Share on other sites

RE Airfield Squadrons would have had an allocation of about 6 - 8 in each sqn, with some machines being retained in the UK, with the balance being at their designated airfield in BAOR.

The BAOR machines would have been stored on site in preservation bags.

The units would have been 50, 51, 52 and 53 sqns.

Maidstone, Ripon, Perham Down Tidworth and Waterbeach Cambridge.

 

Unsure as to what the allocation would have been for a normal RE Field Sqn but probably about 3 per sqn.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Love to see more of this old girl. Spent many hours in the hot seat of one of these, good digger.

 

Is it column gear change or floor change? Try the AEC society for 505 engine details or check out fleebay for a suitable AEC truck manual

Link to post
Share on other sites
A great machine. I used to do a lot of repair work on these Army versions, both Royal Engineers and local ranges had them. Could tell a few tales of jobs done on them too. If I recall, the workshop manual was the US version and we had a supplement for the AV505 engine. Sadly I do not have any manuals for them. Have you checked its service history? I would be interested to know.

 

regards, Richard

 

 

So far not been able to find its WD number /records on any of the Royal logistics web based services. Is there another or better place to go?

Link to post
Share on other sites
Love to see more of this old girl. Spent many hours in the hot seat of one of these, good digger.

 

Is it column gear change or floor change? Try the AEC society for 505 engine details or check out fleebay for a suitable AEC truck manual

 

 

It is a floor change which is another variation from the US army documentation I have as all theirs were dash mounted column change.

 

Going to try AEC guys for enfine manual as suggested

Link to post
Share on other sites

Floor change would make it a real early Mk1. Anything later had column change. The RE museum at Chatham should be able to help with service history, but they don't have the same set up as the RLC museum, so it may take a while

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 7 months later...

Considerable progress in restoration to report

 

Now have working brakes , a fair task as had to strip off reduction hubs to get to brake drums and the seized pistons! Make up all new brake lines and overhaul the master cylinder and air pac.

 

Been out and done a bit of work using winch (with a new rope) to pull over a large dead tree. More cosmetics to complete but great to have her out and working!

 

 

Brake overhaul.jpg

 

IMG_0831.jpg

 

IMG_0887.jpg

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 3 years later...
On 11/7/2016 at 10:09 PM, tcw99 said:

Considerable progress in restoration to report

 

Now have working brakes , a fair task as had to strip off reduction hubs to get to brake drums and the seized pistons! Make up all new brake lines and overhaul the master cylinder and air pac.

 

Been out and done a bit of work using winch (with a new rope) to pull over a large dead tree. More cosmetics to complete but great to have her out and working!

 

 

Brake overhaul.jpg

 

IMG_0831.jpg

 

IMG_0887.jpg

Just stumbled over this thread, do you still have the machine? 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
×
  • Create New...