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6 hours ago, Matt W said:

 ... I think the main points are these -

 

1) There was no rush by the War Office to dispose of vehicles.

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3) The tanks were obsolete, but the War Office had to be pressured to dispose of them

Matt, great bit of research, and I agree Waterbeach seems unlikely, but I'll challenge a couple of your conclusions. Though there were certainly shortages at the time, and metals were in short supply, there was also a collosal amount of materiel to dispose of, and there would have been a limit to the speed at which the metals industry could reprocess surplus armour. I'd be surprised if pressure from someone who (albeit a former defence minister) was by then a backbencher with perhaps his own axes to grind made any difference to the process.

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Good point Sean, one i hadn't considered. Another thing that just occurred to me is that with National Service the Army had plenty of manpower to spare to look after all this kit.

The answer probably lies in the DRAC / War Office policy on retention of armour. I might try searching for this in the National Archive.

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10 minutes ago, andy brown said:

Came across more info on my father's military history which might be of interest to some . just a fill in while waiting for Hammond to admit to having tanks at waterbeach ...IMG_20220411_144656740.thumb.jpg.7de5a93b8384e7dde5418f5d99a66ccd.jpgIMG_20220411_144913632.thumb.jpg.deaeab21a569c1de433dca80768a77a8.jpgIMG_20220411_144626387.thumb.jpg.3a4334675be4cafab66fb9020397d577.jpgIMG_20220411_144600213.thumb.jpg.00f6e66209e2ed9d3690c10106f5fdb1.jpg

11 minutes ago, andy brown said:

Came across more info on my father's military history which might be of interest to some . just a fill in while waiting for Hammond to admit to having tanks at waterbeach ...IMG_20220411_144656740.thumb.jpg.7de5a93b8384e7dde5418f5d99a66ccd.jpgIMG_20220411_144913632.thumb.jpg.deaeab21a569c1de433dca80768a77a8.jpgIMG_20220411_144626387.thumb.jpg.3a4334675be4cafab66fb9020397d577.jpgIMG_20220411_144600213.thumb.jpg.00f6e66209e2ed9d3690c10106f5fdb1.jpgIMG_20220411_144933974.thumb.jpg.d233064a1f4b414e5bb5482f372f0de0.jpg

Pics of group &two father on the right of the two and in the centre of the group, believe this was when he was with the 30th armoured brigade early spring 43 possibly Bexhill Kent ....

 

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On 4/12/2022 at 9:57 AM, andy brown said:

My mistake , Bexhill it was , 

Thought it might be of interest to someone .came across a pic I took at waterbeach airfield back in 2012 , not surprising what you might find laying about on an active airfield , the concrete seen through the fence is a small part of the east apron ( is one burial site , was checking if I could find anywhere along this fence where one could gain access without cutting holes in the concrete to implant side scan units but found that the road butted right up to the apron.. although I later recalled that I was told that both pits were encased in railway sleepers which could cause a problem ..IMG_20220517_132846223.thumb.jpg.f18f00098b4d3d5eeaf7d36ccac546ab.jpg

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If you know roughly where you want to look, would Google maps help?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Waterbeach,+Cambridge/@52.2846044,0.1771389,1203m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x47d871fdba77856f:0x557eedf4e5006987!8m2!3d52.265582!4d0.191002?hl=en-GB

If wondering what the black circles were for. They are practise bomb craters for the RE repair teams to play with.

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19 hours ago, ploughman said:

If you know roughly where you want to look, would Google maps help?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Waterbeach,+Cambridge/@52.2846044,0.1771389,1203m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x47d871fdba77856f:0x557eedf4e5006987!8m2!3d52.265582!4d0.191002?hl=en-GB

If wondering what the black circles were for. They are practise bomb craters for the RE repair teams to play with.

Hi .about a year ago I put the coordinates of the two burial sites on this thread so no I'm not looking for them was just pointing out with the picture that there wasn't enough room between the road ( peri track ) and the apron to gain access with a side scan ,ten years ago I gave all of the details to the site management that's why I was banned from the place ,,as they had never scanned the burial sight and yet announced the place was clean ..which enabled the development of the site to continue ...they had not considered the historic geographic alterations of the airfield assuming how it is now was how it was seventy odd years ago ..you might notice each of the aprons either side of the control tower have been opened up with a two or three foot wide trench across their width ,this would give access through the foot or so of concrete with a magnetometer , not something they would let me do ten years ago ...round  black holes are actually vegetation growing in what I think we're compass swings back in the day ,,yes there are plates of concrete missing from the main runway nearest the A10 that's where the young re squaddies trained in runway repairs before they went t get blown to bits in Helmand's Provence ..

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On 5/18/2022 at 4:27 PM, andy brown said:

Hi .about a year ago I put the coordinates of the two burial sites on this thread so no I'm not looking for them was just pointing out with the picture that there wasn't enough room between the road ( peri track ) and the apron to gain access with a side scan ,ten years ago I gave all of the details to the site management that's why I was banned from the place ,,as they had never scanned the burial sight and yet announced the place was clean ..which enabled the development of the site to continue ...they had not considered the historic geographic alterations of the airfield assuming how it is now was how it was seventy odd years ago ..you might notice each of the aprons either side of the control tower have been opened up with a two or three foot wide trench across their width ,this would give access through the foot or so of concrete with a magnetometer , not something they would let me do ten years ago ...round  black holes are actually vegetation growing in what I think we're compass swings back in the day ,,yes there are plates of concrete missing from the main runway nearest the A10 that's where the young re squaddies trained in runway repairs before they went t get blown to bits in Helmand's Provence ..

Just dug a couple more items out relating to my father's army career ..IMG_20220626_153712753.thumb.jpg.347737ab47e5f5311d47ffb87b4b51c4.jpgIMG_20220626_153736137.thumb.jpg.8681bd427ac069221183060cd68c1942.jpgIMG_20220626_153712753.thumb.jpg.347737ab47e5f5311d47ffb87b4b51c4.jpg

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chatted to a mate of mine who was in RE airfield repair, he said all the concrete pads and runways where like swiss cheese after the Engineers finished there, and another thing he was trained on was looking for under ground bombs, so any big unknown magnetic signatures would probably have been found at some point.

 

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7 hours ago, Ashcollection said:

chatted to a mate of mine who was in RE airfield repair, he said all the concrete pads and runways where like swiss cheese after the Engineers finished there, and another thing he was trained on was looking for under ground bombs, so any big unknown magnetic signatures would probably have been found at some point.

 

Fortunately or unfortunately.depending how you view this the burial site at waterbeach was designed to carry the weight of u/s bombers circa 49/50 just as the cold war picked up speed ,they were never deployed there instead it was a parking lot for venoms and meteors eventually becoming a parking lot for the royal engineers plant and vehicles ,yes there are many or were many of the ww2 concrete pod stands scattered over the three hundred acres used back in the day by stirlings and the like many of thes are isolated with vegetation growing through and many have ground workings visible but this was all before the two aprons were laid for the u/s aircraft ....and if one walks across or around the two 50s aprons they are unblemished. ,only recently has the concrete been cut on each of the aprons in the last two years ,wether or not the developers decided after I gave them the info to have a soil test their main worry would be pollution or contamination beyond that it would all be down to the mod to clear up , the end result to why this are was never checked with gpr was that the stands were laid at the same time as the burial or days after , moving that volume of soil and dumping it on the perimeter of the airfield would have insured that apart from fifteen or sixteen thousand tons of armoured vehicles that went into the pits would have been clean ....but at the end of the day it was done in secret ,there it an awful lot more to this story but my prime objective was those tanks ,as I said I was a witness when this plot was hatched .......

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