Ian L Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 Marked E.H & S 21C/95 /I\ 1941 What is it ? Quote
Richard Farrant Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 Water can for filling up screen washer bottle on a Spitfire? 1 Quote
Great War truck Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 Interesting find. Could it be for filling tilly lamps? Quote
Ian L Posted August 20, 2015 Author Posted August 20, 2015 Interesting find. Could it be for filling tilly lamps? Good guess but I don't think so ? whatever it was they wanted to keep it covered for some reason. Quote
thedawnpatrol Posted August 20, 2015 Posted August 20, 2015 It's a 'Gooseneck flare'. Note the air ministry number. Used on airfields to line the runway on a foggy night. Jules Quote
Ian L Posted August 20, 2015 Author Posted August 20, 2015 It's a 'Gooseneck flare'. Note the air ministry number. Used on airfields to line the runway on a foggy night. Jules Thanks Jules, ive heard about them but how do they work ? Quote
Pzkpfw-e Posted August 21, 2015 Posted August 21, 2015 ""The Gooseneck Flare was so called because of the long-necked spout on a container that resembled a large watering can. The main body contained paraffin with a wick placed in the spout. The Gooseneck would be positioned with the spout pointing downwind to prevent flaring when alight. It produced a bright light but was extremely difficult to extinguish in the event of enemy approaching. The Gooseneck Flares were positioned at intervals along the edge of the runway being used at night to assist and guide the pilots of landing aircraft" http://www.rafharrowbeer.co.uk/about.htm Quote
Ian L Posted August 21, 2015 Author Posted August 21, 2015 ""The Gooseneck Flare was so called because of the long-necked spout on a container that resembled a large watering can. The main body contained paraffin with a wick placed in the spout. The Gooseneck would be positioned with the spout pointing downwind to prevent flaring when alight. It produced a bright light but was extremely difficult to extinguish in the event of enemy approaching.The Gooseneck Flares were positioned at intervals along the edge of the runway being used at night to assist and guide the pilots of landing aircraft" http://www.rafharrowbeer.co.uk/about.htm Thanks, just found this on another forum. The original 'wick' (not shown) was a flat tube of woven cotton about 30mm wide pushed through the spout with about 4 to 6 inches protruding. The can was filled with kerosene (paraffin) to just below interior spout. Wick soaked up the fuel and was ignited using a Match, Fusee or more often, since many might be in use, a Portfire. Often used as primary or secondary runway marking but also in other applications such as marine target marking on ranges. The '21G/95' is the RAF AP 1086 Stores Vocabulary number, i.e. Section 21G, Reference 95 used when ordering and identifying the item. I think that these were classified as 'B'' Stores and as such were not expendable but considered repairable and thus had to be held on custody charge of an individual Inventory and were accountable Ground Equipment. There was available a pair of tongs which could be used to adjust the flaming wick but it was easier to wear a pair of RAF issue leather faced gloves or, in desperation, a folded beret Quote
Ian L Posted August 22, 2015 Author Posted August 22, 2015 Is this another one by a different manufacturer ? hinged top handle, hinged cover & a goose neck. Quote
Great War truck Posted August 22, 2015 Posted August 22, 2015 This is very interesting. Didn't know about these. You just need to buy another 49 and we can reinstate Windrush airfield. Quote
P Bellamy Posted August 23, 2015 Posted August 23, 2015 I'm pretty sure this ISN'T a gooseneck flare, but a simple filling can of some description. Assuming the stamping is an AM stores reference, Section 21 is for Barrack Equipment Subsection 21G/x covers "Hospital Equipment, excluding medical & surgical supplies" which doesn't sound right at all, more likely is 21C/x "Metalware". Goosenecks with marked stores references are usually in Section 4 (Aerodrome Equipment), for example 4C/1273 is the reference for the regular round pattern type with the round lid. Quote
Artifficer Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 I'm pretty sure this ISN'T a gooseneck flare, but a simple filling can of some description. Assuming the stamping is an AM stores reference, Section 21 is for Barrack Equipment Subsection 21G/x covers "Hospital Equipment, excluding medical & surgical supplies" which doesn't sound right at all, more likely is 21C/x "Metalware". Goosenecks with marked stores references are usually in Section 4 (Aerodrome Equipment), for example 4C/1273 is the reference for the regular round pattern type with the round lid. Hi all I agree with Paul, we have a gooseneck flare can at RAF Kenley and the spout is longer and straighter than the one on the forum. We tried it out some years ago and you could see the light from the far end of runway 03 at night despite the light pollution from London. Regards Robin Quote
Ian L Posted August 24, 2015 Author Posted August 24, 2015 I'm pretty sure this ISN'T a gooseneck flare, but a simple filling can of some description. Assuming the stamping is an AM stores reference, Section 21 is for Barrack Equipment Subsection 21G/x covers "Hospital Equipment, excluding medical & surgical supplies" which doesn't sound right at all, more likely is 21C/x "Metalware". Goosenecks with marked stores references are usually in Section 4 (Aerodrome Equipment), for example 4C/1273 is the reference for the regular round pattern type with the round lid. It definitely stamped 21C not G I just buffed it up. Quote
utt61 Posted August 24, 2015 Posted August 24, 2015 It reminds me very much of the things traditionally used to fill the sand boxes of steam locomotives. Like a watering can but with an oversize spout, designed for dispensing fine dry sand. Quote
Ian L Posted January 28, 2016 Author Posted January 28, 2016 It's a 'Gooseneck flare'. Note the air ministry number. Used on airfields to line the runway on a foggy night. Jules I think this is a goose neck flare ? & the other can is just for filling fluids ? Quote
RAFMT Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 Not sure why I didn’t notice this thread before, 21C/95 is Can, Water, Toilet, 3qts Japanned (21C/94 would be 2 gallons) Quote
Ian L Posted January 29, 2016 Author Posted January 29, 2016 Not sure why I didn’t notice this thread before, 21C/95 is Can, Water, Toilet, 3qts Japanned (21C/94 would be 2 gallons) Thanks, definitive answer at last but what does it mean ? Can, Water, Toilet ? Quote
Chris Suslowicz Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 Thanks, definitive answer at last but what does it mean ? Can, Water, Toilet ? It's a Can, intended to contain Water, for use in a Toilet. Simples! <squeak> At a guess, it's intended for washing down the "wall and gully" type of urinal where there's no automated flushing system installed. Chris. Quote
Richard Farrant Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 Just the right kit if you were to depict a Mobile Latrine Unit in Living History at W&PR Quote
Richard Farrant Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 Just for you Richard No, I will pay the £10 and make use of the excellent facilities at W&PR, bit more privacy than a bit of hessian thanks. Quote
fv1609 Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 Like these they had one year. So you go in a Gent & come out a Lady :wow: Quote
GeePig Posted January 31, 2016 Posted January 31, 2016 It definitely stamped 21C not G I just buffed it up. So, you were obviously on latrine duty trevor Quote
Ian L Posted January 31, 2016 Author Posted January 31, 2016 So, you were obviously on latrine duty trevor Always in the S**T Trevor. :undecided: Quote
518sqrTiree Posted October 20, 2022 Posted October 20, 2022 This is not a gooseneck flare... all containers carrying paraffin or kerosene were fitted with a sealed lid... Imagine one lid slightly open allowing a spark in, or a change of wind direction backing the flare and you would end up with a "FLARE" that could be seen for miles. It is for filling water containers... once had a rubber pipe of about 2' attached. Quote
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