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I'm almost done with the re-wire. The diagram in the manual is wrong, so i re-drew it and got a bit of help from PhilB on wire sizes and recommended a couple useful additions which i've discreetly added. Have also included indicators, can't be too safe these day with something so slow. I wanted to run the wiring in the same bitumen coated sleeving that the Jeep wiring came in because i thought it looked period correct and far better than the modern plastic alternatives. There are suppliers of it in this country but only upto a certain size and i needed some bigger stuff. Only place i could find it was in the USA and they wouldn't send to the UK, so i got it sent to my auntys in WV and she sent it on, took a while but it got here eventually.

I had the original headlight and sidelight reflectors re-silvered. One of the sidelights was missing its terminations, so i made up the clamp that goes round the body of the bulb holder in brass and also a female receptacle a hollow bullet connector on the back of the reflector and soldered it on.

I came up with a rather elaborate set of clips to suspend the battery clamps from the cab floor.

I also had to make some of the brass P clips myself where weren't standard ones that fitted, and on the bulkhead the original holes were so close to the cab frame i had to come up with a cut down P clip to make it work. Really pleased with how its all turned out.

 

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This week my brother and i blasted and primed all the bits for the crane winch, so thats the next thing to start going back together. That said after we had packed all the blasting kit away, Tim found the sheet metal cover that goes round the worm wheel, i'd completly forgotten about it, but it needs a few minor weld repairs anyway.

I also recently blasted and primed the seat frames, wings and their brackets, so next job is to put them back together, a bit of filler and finish paint.

After much deliberating i've decided that i can't face blasting the frame work for the rear body myself. Its just massive and i'd only need it to start raining half way through and i'd really loose my rag! lol. So that is going off soon to a professional local blasting outfit. I guess thats the last major bit to be started on.

 

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I did wonder as there was a Pioneer parked next to my Brothers truck that was in a part restored state and at a similar stage to yours.

Keep up the good work, hopefully we will have our Commer finished for next years show too.

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21 hours ago, Rootes75 said:

I did wonder as there was a Pioneer parked next to my Brothers truck that was in a part restored state and at a similar stage to yours.

Keep up the good work, hopefully we will have our Commer finished for next years show too.

Yes that was Simon Duff's tank transporter.

I didn't know you were coming, should have made yourself known. Trouble with the user names that we all adopt on here, you don't then know what someone's real name is. 

Who is your brother then?

Richard

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On 7/18/2021 at 10:14 AM, 70HONEYMONSTER said:

Can you send me a copy of the wiring diagram that you have just now , I am at the stage of wiring and any help would be much appreciated , 

Regards

Bryan

Hi Bryan,

Give me a few days to check its up to date with any tweaks i made as i was installing the wiring and i'll post it here.

All the best. Richard

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Hi Richard,

I was looking at your wiring diagram and photos. In the photo that shows the dash , on the far side under the control box there seems to be an additional fuse box but this does not seem to appear on the wiring diagram? Also what are the benefits of running the ground back to the buzz bar and not grounded on the chassis or body work. Does this not mean that there will be a fair amount of earth wires arriving at the buzz bar? My wiring knowledge  is not the greatest so sorry for the questions

Regards 

Bryan

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Sorry Bryan, i hadn't noticed your post until now.

Not sure what you're referring to. The unit under the control box on the diagram is the generator.

To ground all your lights etc to bodywork means all parts of the vehicle need to be electrically grounded to one another to make the circuit, hence why american vehicles like the Jeep have lots of grounding straps. This can sometimes be a source of problems when lights don't work as its difficult to locate where the circuit is broken. If you run everything back to the fusebox it makes things easier. There is a fair bit coming back to the fusebox but it works.

Hope that helps. Richard

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Bryan, i've just re-read your post, and realised you said on the photo there appears to be another box under the control box. Not sure what you're referring to. Theres some loose wires sticking up but those are the ones that go to the generator just hadn't been connected at that stage. If you're still struggling PM me and i'll give you my number we can chat on the phone, that would be much easier.

Good luck. Richard

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Hi Richard,

Sorry my mistake. What I thought was an additional fuse box is actually the bottom of the control box. I may take take you you up on a chat over the phone when I get to nearer to completion . Just in the process of gathering all the wiring ,lights  and switches together.

Once again sorry for the confusion

Bryan

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