Chris Suslowicz Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I've confirmed that the long limber is for a 60 pounder and also that the "projectile" is in fact a barrel gauge. Apparently, you drop it down the barrel to check the bore. I think it's more likely to be a proof shot, since it has a driving band on it. (The projectile for a proof round doesn't need to be aerodynamic, so tends to be cylindrical.) I doubt very much that you'd be able to "drop it down the barrel" and get it out again without a great deal of effort - probably involving a very long hydraulic jack or a suitable baulk of timber and a sledgehammer. Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris C8 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 I bought some original negs some time ago of a limber and gun, not an expert but could they be the same type of limber. [some of the negs might be the wrong way round ?] Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morris C8 Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Close up of the limber. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 22 LBDR Posted August 25, 2014 Author Share Posted August 25, 2014 Hi Terry The painted chassis looks like the right one for me, can you pm me with some idea as to how much they want for it? Thanks Ross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted August 25, 2014 Share Posted August 25, 2014 Not interested in the limber as well? There is a meeting tonight, I'll make some enquiries - just remember it's in Adelaide, South Australia so shipping will not be cheap. Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch 22 LBDR Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 Not interested in the limber as well? There is a meeting tonight, I'll make some enquiries - just remember it's in Adelaide, South Australia so shipping will not be cheap. Cheers, Terry Hi Terry, I have a shipping plan sorted but it will depend on how much the Chassis will cost if it is worth doing. Hopefully we can work something out as it will save me a lot of fabrication. The other limber is the wrong type for me. Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packhow75 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Not interested in the limber as well? There is a meeting tonight, I'll make some enquiries - just remember it's in Adelaide, South Australia so shipping will not be cheap. Cheers, Terry Find a household removal company and see if they can ship in a consolidated container (ie where you share the container with others) - may take 3 or 4 months... I have used this approach to ship from the UK to Australia several times and find it a cheap and reliable service. Failing that maybe a website like "despatchbay" is worth a look. Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcher Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 OFG Hogg is the man you need. Pgs 286/7 of his book 'Artillery: Its Origin, Heyday and Decline' has a table giving the key data for all the main field guns in the world in 1910, he lists 25 from 24 countries (everyone made their own guns in those days). For 18-pr and 13-pr: Rds in Limber: 24 Rds in Wagon Limber: 28 Rds in Wagon Body: 48 Rds per gun 176 No of guns per bty: 6 No of wagons per bty: 12 Wt of wagon packed (18-pr): 36.75 cwt Wt of gun (18-pr): 9 cwt Wt of gun & carriage: 24.75 cwt Wt of gun & limber filled: 40 cwt Its also interesting that in developing 18-pr the requirement was for the limbers to provide protection to the detachment, along with the gun shield, from small arms fire over a reasonably wide arc, a lesson from S Africa. This suggests there was a certain thickness of steel. It's also useful to note that for 18-pr the detachment rode on the Wagon with the gun not the gun limber (the second wagon per gun was under bty arrangements), of course for RHA 13-pr every man had a horse. Unfortunately he doesn't provide figures for 4.5 in How but it would have been less rds per wagon or limber. All this should help work out which type of limber you have. Bethel is another useful source, his 'Modern Artillery in the Field' 1910, also gives 176 rpg for 18 and 13 pr, and offers 112 for 4.5 (6 gun bty) and 76 for 60-pr (4 gun bty). The practice of two wagons per gun seems to have been standard and 40-cwt for a 6 horse team of the light vanner type seems about the upper limit. Of course 60-pr used draft horses. I can't help but wonder how many museums have got their limbers mixed up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjejwaugh Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Hello LBDR and Ray, just so happens that I am doing an 18Pr restoration in Sydney. So far have the gun, gun limber and hind ammo wagon - just need the front ammo wagon of the type found by Ray to complete the set. In the bits and pieces accumulated over the past 10 years, I have some spares of some of the items for sale/swap. I am pretty sure that a spare hind ammo wagon is amongst them, as converted to pneumatic wheels (unfortunately no axle, only the cast supports). That may be of interest to LBDR and others, but the type shown in the photo posted by LBDR looks like a front ammo wagon with wooden draw bar replaced by a steel perch and stay bars. Australia used the rear ammo wagon as it had the steel perch already, and did not need much upgrading. An example is at the Lytton museum in Brisbane. Other hind ammo wagons were also used behind infantry support tanks in PNG to carry small arms ammo in the advance. The WW1 gun limbers and front ammo wagons were not used in Australia in WW2. The difference between the gun limber and ammo wagons is that gun limber used 3 tiers and ammo wagon used 4, so is noticeably higher. regards, Damien Nicholas aka Nick Hi Damien wondering if you could tell me what spares you may have for sale for the limbers chasing a break assembly for the rear limber Regards Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben.. Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Terry/Starfire Did the museum have a spare limber? Could you pm me please? thanks Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 If it was in those pictures that I posted, then it is spare. I know very little about that gear though. Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben.. Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Yes the ones in your photos. Could you PM me with your details please? I've sent a PM to you but the system doesn't always work. thanks Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 What details do you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben.. Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 How much it might be? It's availability, who to speak to regarding its sale.............. A contact email to arrange details. Thanks Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 In that case, you need to be specific about what part(s) you're interested in. Maybe repost the photos after circling them or something. They all look like boxes of rust to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben.. Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The parts are in your post #50 looks like photos you've taken of the parts in a storage shed. Chassis and rusty old box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Rusty box has a chassis, there is another on top of it too. The green chassis on the ground has been sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben.. Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Interested in what's left. Did you take anymore pictures other than those already posted? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starfire Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 No, but I could; provided that I can still find the stuff. The area that it was being stored in has been cleaned up. So hopefully it will be more accessible now. Cheers, Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben.. Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 If you could look, take any photos and find out what the museum want for it, it'd be much appreciated. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demiane Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Hi I have question do anyone recognize this box?. It was discovered on attic old school in some city on Lower Silesia (Poland). Before war there were many units like 3 Posen Inf Regiment no 58 or 2 Niederschlesisches Feld-Artillerie Regiment No 41. There were some letters on the front: "V A.K." and "3 A.M. K. E S" below. I think that "V A K" might be "V Armee Korps" (Most of city's units were belongs to this Korps). What means letters below? I've searched so many websites and didn't find anything Thank you for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnixartillery Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 (edited) HiI have question do anyone recognize this box?. It was discovered on attic old school in some city on Lower Silesia (Poland). Before war there were many units like 3 Posen Inf Regiment no 58 or 2 Niederschlesisches Feld-Artillerie Regiment No 41. There were some letters on the front: "V A.K." and "3 A.M. K. E S" below. I think that "V A K" might be "V Armee Korps" (Most of city's units were belongs to this Korps). What means letters below? I've searched so many websites and didn't find anything Thank you for your help. Hello. Its not an 18 pdr limber box ,doesn't resemble any other British limber. Rob....................rnixartillery Edited December 23, 2016 by rnixartillery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surveyor Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Is there a better picture of the back, as it does not look as though the "lifting handles" for want of a better description repeated on the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demiane Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Hello. Its not an 18 pdr limber box ,doesn't resemble any other British limber. Rob....................rnixartillery Yes. I know But I didn't find any other post about limber boxes. So I write here about "my" box It's rather Prussian than British. Krupp? Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demiane Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 Is there a better picture of the back, as it does not look as though the "lifting handles" for want of a better description repeated on the back. Here are other pictures (I'm sorry but I don't know how to attach more pictures than three.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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