Berisford Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 I wonder, can anyone shed any light on this mobile searchlight truck. I assume it's in the Civil Defence with its civilian number plate? I'm not even sure what type of truck it is! The still is taken from an old home movie. http://www.macearchive.org/Archive/Title/collins-mansfield-at-war/MediaEntry/49861.html Quote
ted angus Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) 1937 all UK military vehicles displayed a county council civvy reg number, this is a R.E. TA unit. The Army reg is on the door in small letters. It looks like a Thornycroft ZS/TC4 a purpose built Searchlight truck with a generator under the bonnet in front of the engine. TED Edited August 18, 2013 by ted angus Quote
Richard Farrant Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 I think the lorry in the photo might be a Leyland (Lynx?), the other ones shown in the film with open cabs are Tilling-Stevens TS19 models Quote
Berisford Posted August 18, 2013 Author Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) Many thanks for the rapid reply to my request Ted. Thornycroft eh, so obvious to see when you know! A good looking truck for its year. So were the regular registration plates used through he war years? Edited August 18, 2013 by Berisford Spelling Quote
Berisford Posted August 18, 2013 Author Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) I'll dare bet there was a scramble for the Thornycroft v the TS19's at that depot! Edited August 18, 2013 by Berisford Spelling Quote
wally dugan Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 YOUR question about civillian type registration numbers this stopped been used on military vehicles after the fall of france and was replaced by a system refered to as cenus numbers all vehicle numbers would start with a prefix letter this would tell you what the vehicle was IE A was a ambulance Z trucks under 1 ton and so on This would be followed a series of numbers example Z 123456 the RAF and NAVY adopted there own system l hope this helps abit to understand Quote
Degsy Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 Sorry Richard but I've got to go with Ted on this one, although the Leyland is very similar I'm pretty sure this is a Thornycroft Quote
Richard Farrant Posted August 18, 2013 Posted August 18, 2013 Sorry Richard but I've got to go with Ted on this one, although the Leyland is very similar I'm pretty sure this is a Thornycroft Yes I can see it is now. Quote
Berisford Posted August 19, 2013 Author Posted August 19, 2013 YOUR question about civillian type registration - ......... - l hope this helps abit to understand :tup:: Quote
ted angus Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) YOUR question about civillian type registration numbers this stopped been used on military vehicles after the fall of franceand was replaced by a system refered to as cenus numbers all vehicle numbers would start with a prefix letter this would tell you what the vehicle was IE A was a ambulance Z trucks under 1 ton and so on This would be followed a series of numbers example Z 123456 the RAF and NAVY adopted there own system l hope this helps abit to understand Just to add a bit to Wally's In the 1930s both CC reg and census numbers ran together, whilst vehicles displayed their CC reg number in the prescribed manner they frequently also carried their census number. There seems to have been a prescribed layout for the census number with the prefix letter above the numerals . TED Edited August 19, 2013 by ted angus Quote
Ex-boy Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Just to add a bit to Wally's In the 1930s both CC reg and census numbers ran together, whilst vehicles displayed their CC reg number in the prescribed manner they frequently also carried their census number. There seems to have been a prescribed layout for the census number with the prefix letter above the numerals .TED Am I seeing things, or does the blurb for the Humber Snipe say 9 feet 5 inch ground clearance? Quote
ted angus Posted August 19, 2013 Posted August 19, 2013 Am I seeing things, or does the blurb for the Humber Snipe say 9 feet 5 inch ground clearance? It does I can't remember where I got that obviously a scan from a magazine possibly ?? TED Quote
defender90 Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 I know this is an old thread but im after as much info on the thorneycroft s/l truck as i can get. Quote
Bob Grundy Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 A great photo, anything known about these blokes ? What's the div sign on the mudguard ? Quote
defender90 Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 they are 400 indep sl btry 51 Northamptonshire reg RA ta, somewhere in Italy in 1943, I'd love to know what the vehicle markings ment, i know 400 battery where sent to north africa in january 43 with the 30 surrey sl reg, then after being in algers and tunisia they whent to italy later in 43 but not sure who with? as searchlight seemed to be in short supply and seem to have been split up? (my dads in the top pic 3rd from left sitting on the step in vest). Quote
Richard Farrant Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 I cannot tell you anything about the unit, but do know of the remains of one of the Thornycroft searchlight trucks, in a far off land lying in the bush, see photo. Also an interesting cautionary notice from the makers regarding surplus models being auctioned off. Quote
defender90 Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Thank you Richard, do you know where the 1st pic was taken? what part of the world? Quote
Richard Farrant Posted January 2, 2015 Posted January 2, 2015 Thank you Richard, do you know where the 1st pic was taken? what part of the world? Yes, a friend sent me this recently, it is in NSW, Australia and has been there for many years. Nothing else known on its history though. Quote
ScaffardiMarco Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 Hi guys! My boss have this Thornycroft ZS TC 4 but he haven't the image of the cockpit and then He fails to restore it. Someone has the image of this original cockpit? Thank you guys Quote
Richard Farrant Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 Wow,, amazing, that is a rare vehicle. Is this in Italy? Quote
ScaffardiMarco Posted February 6, 2018 Posted February 6, 2018 Yes, this truck is set up in Fidenza, Via della Chiesa n.8, On Rover Joe Museum, visit our site 'roverjoe.com'. Quote
defender90 Posted January 25, 2022 Posted January 25, 2022 On 2/6/2018 at 2:42 PM, ScaffardiMarco said: Yes, this truck is set up in Fidenza, Via della Chiesa n.8, On Rover Joe Museum, visit our site 'roverjoe.com'. is it possible to visit this? there can't have been many in Italy, wonder if it was one of 400 battery's? Quote
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