question Carrying passengers in 15cwt or other GS trucks

[fayjo56]

I don't want to open a can of worms but does anyone have experience or advice on carrying passengers in the rear of trucks that didnt originaly have seating in the rear body?. How do you stand legally and with insurance for instance? I have thought of making some bench seats for the MW that 'look right', what are peoples thoughts?

[N.O.S.]

Bench seating is all that most others have. Regardless of the sometimes enormous seating capacity of bigger vehicles, if you check with your insurance company they will almost certainly give you a limit of (I think) 9 (or did they tell me 7? - doh!) including driver - I think this is the point at which PSV stuff kicks in.

Edited August 17, 2013 by N.O.S.

[RattlesnakeBob]

I don't want to open a can of worms but does anyone have experience or advice on carrying passengers in the rear of trucks that didnt originaly have seating in the rear body?. How do you stand legally and with insurance for instance? I have thought of making some bench seats for the MW that 'look right', what are peoples thoughts?

 

I came across this a few years ago with a project that I was involved in.....and you'll be entering a minefield with the average insurance company mate..

.. I was going to fit the sort of seats that I've seen in the back of modern army wagons and African 'safari' vehicles ...almost like car rally seats complete with a safety harness's etc ..

You could very easily make up some seating perhaps taken out of an old bus or something similar and rig some lap belts etc?.. but ...if you were to have a claim against you ?.

....Knowing what insurance companies are like though, unless they were 'type approved / tested / installed etc to manufacturers standards blah de blah etc ' ?... I could imagine one of those opportunity grabbing 'no win no fee / anybodies fault except the person making the claim etc' companies putting you through some sorta stress :-(

[wally dugan]

if you go on the DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTS site is has a SECTION ON THIS VERY SUBJECT as been said it has been

discused on other sites mainly on LANDROVER ONES

[MB1944]

Wally

Could you please give a link to this info?

 

regards

John

[wally dugan]

SORRY should said l googled british law on carrying passengers in a open backed trucks it the came up with the department

of transport site on there is a section on this you have to dig a bit but its all there hope it helps

[ruxy]

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120606172804/http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/dft-information-sheets/converting-a-van-to-carry-passengers-in-the-rear.pdf

 

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20120606172834/http://assets.dft.gov.uk/publications/dft-information-sheets/travelling-in-horseboxes.pdf

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vehicle-safety-standards-information-sheets

 

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/ais36.pdf

 

 

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Lorries & pick-up type "utility" & "dual-purpose" trucks , ISTR there is in fact zilch by way of similar publications

[wally dugan]

STRANGE l have been on and ended up on the LANDROVER SERIES ONE CLUB SITE and yet again the subject is disscused on there as well as others

l did say you have to do some digging meaning you have to start at the D OF T

[N.O.S.]

STRANGE l have been on and ended up on the LANDROVER SERIES ONE CLUB SITE and yet again the subject is disscused on there as well as others

l did say you have to do some digging meaning you have to start at the D OF T

 

I had a read of that LR site this morning Wally. Not much in the way of a conclusion, other than it seems to be most important that you talk with your insurer and agree between you how many seats you will be covered for under your policy.

[wally dugan]

N O S THANK YOU some time ago this came up with a customer and before doing any thing l looked it to it there was alot of discussion on this same subject even on construction forums on the legal position to carrying passengers in the back of open back trucks none gave any real help other than contacting there insurance company

[ruxy]

It is more or less down to Insurance negotiations on vehicles going back as far WW2 era. There is little legislation that is retrospective (IIRC probably just child seat belts). The area to watch out for is if there are "employed persons" around , such as hiring out for film work.

 

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/etis22.pdf