Colebrook Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 That is a big vase in the first photo not a little cap on a pint glass. The scale made me chuckle when I took it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglehurst Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 What is the size and date of this - cannot quite make it out through the liner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colebrook Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 There is no date or size. I know these to be early fifties. I have heard that they were issued during Korea. I have once seen one in RAF blue but was not able to purchase it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglehurst Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Correct - they are early 50's cold weather issue as part of the Korean war developed cold weather gear which lead to the 1952 pattern gear. Often with these caps the makers name and date is under the semi-opaque liner in the top of the cap. Sometimes if you press down this liner down quite firmly you can read the manf details through the liner... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdbikemad Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Jason is again correct.....these are the 1950s pattern army issue combat cap, developed in the late 1940s and made from double-thickness proofed cotton gabardine........this cap remained unchanged from trial through to the early 1970s when replaced by the DPM combat cap from 1972 onward...........most production appears to be from the early 1950s with little if any latter manufacture........uncommon today in large sizes but smaller sizes (below a 7) still fairly easy (and cheap) to source........ Only ever made in olive drab, the RAF had their own pattern (for aircrew) that is different and made (initially) in blue-grey, latter green and in production up to the 1970s...... Manufacturers details, dates and sizing are beneath the oilcloth crown shield......either printed onto the inner of the cap fabric or on a paper label............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Harry Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Have 2 myself with from memory markings etc only visible on the 1 cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garys39 Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Here are the RAF ones, one blue and one tan, both labelled (both RAF stores numbers), found while searching for something completely different, these turned up recently from a garage clearance in London with boxes of webbing etc. The blue caps black side buttons are black plastic, Kings crown type. With these caps there is also one the same as at the start of this thread, no makers mark/date that I can see, but on the inside of the leather sweat band, there is what seems a very faint AID stamp, this would make it RAF I believe ? Regards Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colebrook Posted August 3, 2013 Author Share Posted August 3, 2013 Thank you Gary. I actually have the khaki cotton type too and thought it was army. Just need to get my hands on a blue/grey cap for my post war RAF bits and bobs. Went up to Hendon today, I have not been for years. Very nice day out it was too. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Harry Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 That Khaki ones turn up regularly on Ebay,think there are a couple on there now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglehurst Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Any thoughts on this - looks very similar to the RAF issue cap but has small round vents on the sides, no labels and fabric ties on sides and back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglehurst Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 And another one - black, thick faux fur lining and face cover. Thought it was a civilian hat but has broadarrow markings....any thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdbikemad Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Bloody hell Jason....talk about throwing a spanner in the works !!!! I think the blue-grey one is still RAF, but a variant....? Any labels/marks ? As for the faux leather type, again I suspect either RAF or RN.....? The latter maybe to go with the oilskin waterproofs...? Made by John Compton Sons & Webb (JCS & W)............ I have really no ideas........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglehurst Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 No marks on the blue cap Steve..... Must admit I do not have a clue on the second one either....:red: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Harry Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Dont know why but the blue one Im thinking Nato/European. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaglehurst Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 I had thought Canadian perhaps but with no markings really tough to say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Harry Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 My first thoughts were Canadian as well. Reason Im thinking Nato/European is a while back(no longer have it) had a similar green one and that was stamped up/marked etc and cannot remember if it was(not much help Im sure)Norwegian,Dutch or Belgian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Harry Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 One of the two I have(cannot find the other). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdbikemad Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 50s manufacture again.......nice to see the oilcloth in better condition than usual though...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colebrook Posted August 18, 2013 Author Share Posted August 18, 2013 Very nice example. If anyone has a RAF one it would be good to see. The black leather one - I am sure I saw Ronnie Barker in one of those in Going Straight.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colebrook Posted August 18, 2013 Author Share Posted August 18, 2013 Sorry, yes just looked back at the pics RAF one ready posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdbikemad Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 And another one - black, thick faux fur lining and face cover. Thought it was a civilian hat but has broadarrow markings....any thoughts? [ATTACH=CONFIG]80585[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]80586[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]80590[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]80589[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]80587[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]80588[/ATTACH] Sabre sales have a similar one currently listed on Ebay......same apart from a lighter lining and pin-head size.......described as a RN 1950s Korean War era Naval arctic/cold weather cap.........they may be correct.....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Harry Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Found the 2nd cap,similar condition to other 7 1/4 1955 made by J Collet Ltd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wdbikemad Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 RAF aircrew issue, 1950s - 60s..........."22c" (aircrew) stores ref number......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Harry Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Is the 54 the date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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