British oil cans?

[ajmac]

Could someone please post a photo of a common British engine oil can that would have been around in 1944-45. I am looking out for something suitable for the Loyd, as the manual sets out daily oil level checks, thus I presume the guys would have stored an amount on the vehicle.

 

Thanks all

[Richard Farrant]

Could someone please post a photo of a common British engine oil can that would have been around in 1944-45. I am looking out for something suitable for the Loyd, as the manual sets out daily oil level checks, thus I presume the guys would have stored an amount on the vehicle.

 

Thanks all

 

Here you go, one from my QL. They made the same pattern in postwar years as well. If you find two, I could do with another one, any date, no bothered.

 

regards Richard

[Lauren Child]

Interesting to see that it's made the same way as the Canadian cans (raised lip around the top).

 

I'll try to take a photo of a Canadian one at the weekend.

[Richard Farrant]

Interesting to see that it's made the same way as the Canadian cans (raised lip around the top).

 

I'll try to take a photo of a Canadian one at the weekend.

 

It was the Canadians that copied ours.......... and the Australians. They are a standard WD design. Don't forget CMP vehicles were built to British WD specifications.

[Ivor Ramsden]

Whilst on the subject of oil cans, we need one (the squirty type, not a storage can) for the Morris CDSW. It fits in an oval bracket under the bonnet. Does anyone know what make and size I should be looking out for?

Even better, does anybody have a spare?

[Richard Farrant]

Whilst on the subject of oil cans, we need one (the squirty type, not a storage can) for the Morris CDSW. It fits in an oval bracket under the bonnet. Does anyone know what make and size I should be looking out for?

Even better, does anybody have a spare?

 

Hi Ivor,

I might have one, bear with me, if I can find it today, will send a photo.

[morris c8 fat]

Hi

Ivor

Not sure about yours but the two C8 g/s"s have the same size one thats on the 25pdr. I havnt seen a bracket on the Quads though.

[Richard Farrant]

Whilst on the subject of oil cans, we need one (the squirty type, not a storage can) for the Morris CDSW. It fits in an oval bracket under the bonnet. Does anyone know what make and size I should be looking out for?

Even better, does anybody have a spare?

 

 

Hi Ivor,

Here is a photo of the can I have, it is stamped "RTS Ltd" and "1/2 pint". It came with an old WW2 military vehicle. I have forgotten to measure it though.

[morris c8 fat]

Thats the one on the C8s were they standard fit?

[Richard Farrant]

Thats the one on the C8s were they standard fit?

No, some British vehicles of the period had the round Wesco ones which pumped oil, the one in the photo only has a release button so you can drip oil out, it does not pump.

[Ivor Ramsden]

Thanks for digging it out, Richard. It certainly looks like that's the type which will fit the bracket.

[Ron]

Here I have two original WW2 dated oil cans with the Canadian symbol for my universal carrier. The main difference with post war cans is the brass screw caps and the more elaborat shaped handles. Ron

Edited May 25, 2013 by Ron

[Richard Farrant]

Here I have two original WW2 dated oil cans with the Canadian symbol for my universal carrier. The main difference with post war cans is the brass screw caps and the more elaborat shaped handles. Ron

 

Hi Ron,

I recently saw some WW2 British WD 1 gall oil cans with the pressed steel caps as on Shell, Castrol, etc cans, so perhaps it was only Canada that made them of brass?

[Ron]

You might well be right Richard. I had it in my head that they had the same caps as the 2 gall petrol/water cans. They might also be interchangeable with the tin caps? I haven't tried. Ron

[Richard Farrant]

You might well be right Richard. I had it in my head that they had the same caps as the 2 gall petrol/water cans. They might also be interchangeable with the tin caps? I haven't tried. Ron

 

That's a point Ron, I will have to check out if the two caps are interchangeable. Although from memory the 2gall brass cap has a finer thread

[Lauren Child]

Here's a photo that shows what I meant. I know that the POW can was British but used throughout the Commonwealth countries, but the Canadian 2 gallon cans have a raised lip where other nation's 2 gallon cans don't seem to.

 

I also have a post war British small (quart?) oil can that's made with the same raised edge, so I'm wondering if there was a reason for it.

 

From a feel I'd say the raised edge cans seem rather more flimsy but they seem to have lasted better with less corrosion inside.

 

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[Ron]

You are quite right Luaren. I just checked my two Canadian 2 gall cans against several Brit cans i have and the Canadian ones have the raised edge. I never noticed it before. Ron

[Lauren Child]

Just a ponderance, but was the oil supply chain via Canada?

[Richard Farrant]

Just a ponderance, but was the oil supply chain via Canada?

 

Lauren,

Just wondering how this question linked with oil cans, then thinking about it, are you assuming that oil was supplied in these cans? They are actually part on the MT kit to go with vehicles and not a unit of supply, I would imagine the oil was supplied much as it is today in drums of around 5 gall (now 25 litres).

[Lauren Child]

Lauren,

Just wondering how this question linked with oil cans, then thinking about it, are you assuming that oil was supplied in these cans? They are actually part on the MT kit to go with vehicles and not a unit of supply, I would imagine the oil was supplied much as it is today in drums of around 5 gall (now 25 litres).

 

I was wondering whether supply via Canada would explain the cans being of similar construction, but like you say probably not.

[Adrian Barrell]

I had always assumed the British WD cans were essentially identical to the civilian versions other than the debossed markings. The Canadian cans were tooled up especially for the military and hence incorporated the raised rim of the military oil can.

[Lauren Child]

That could be it

 

As a heads up - there's one of the squirty cans on ebay at the moment (no connection).

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-WW2-EX-WD-KAYES-OIL-CAN-BRITISH-ENGINEERS-REME-MILITARY-ARMY-TOOL-/111079006013

[ajmac]

Thanks for all the photos, I have an idea what to look for now.

[rupert condick]

Hi there

I have just being looking at these,

Austin Part numbers, and MT part numbers.

1st type

Oil can, 2H 3442, MT1/22355, Wesco.

Holder,  2H 3485, MT1/43989, 

 

 

 

2nd type

Oil can, 2H 3884, MT1/10128,  

Holder,  2H 3885, MT1/27026,  

 

 

 

 

3rd type

Oil can, 2H 3884, MT1/10128, 

Holder,  2H 3885, MT1/27026,  

 

same part numbers but different holder's ,

 

Holder is broken, but on dash by throttle linkage.

regs

Rupert

 

[David Herbert]

The oval style cans like 2H3442 above are actually a standard design of oil can that was used in all branches of engineering and steam haulage for many years in the UK and I expect many other countries. They were made in many sizes and with a button operated pump, a button operated valve (so gravity feed) and also purely gravity feed with no button like the one depicted as 2H3442. There was often a sliding shutter to close the filling hole but not always. There is at least one manufacturer that still supplies them new to the UK heritage steam sector. If I was looking for one I would search autojumbles at steam rallies and of course Ebay.

David