question Humber Pig parts

[jamesc777]

Hi everyone, Im slowly looking around trying to decide if i am up to owning a on old MV and the Humber pig is the one i have my eyes on. While trying to research parts i noticed a problem especially with the tyres, i know the mk2 need to be reinforced but are there replacement options around for the pig and what options do we have for either mk1/mk2?

 

Im sure questions on parts have been asked many times but i have struggled to find them thats why i posted, so sorry if i am repeating someone elses posts.

 

I have found a pig mk2 i believe which is meant to be a good runner but needs brakes looking at, are they an issue as well? I think it might be out of my budget so im not going to jump in until im happy - never easy tho!

 

Thanks for listening, James

[fv1609]

James brakes are not really a problem. They are operated hydraulically by Lockhead & lot easier to set up than Girling in Land Rovers. The handbrake acts directly by a linkage on each cylinder, not a transmission brake like on a Land Rover. You won't get new slave cylinders, you will have to rebuild them. They are a bit fiddly but the cup is the same size as for a 101. Master cylinders are fairly easy to get & service kits.

 

But at least the clutch mechanism needs no hydraulics, it is just a pedal & linkage to the clutch.

 

As for tyres unless the tyres are good it immediately knocks £1,000 off the value in my view. For that is the price you might expect to pay if you found some surplus ones.There seem to be no sources of run flat tyres of the required size any more. So you have to rely on a chance purchase of someone having a clear out, giving up etc. Someone has fitted truck tyres but they are not RF so carrying a spare with a Pig doesn't really look right.

 

What you have to get used to is that there is no Humber spare parts autofactors where you can buy something you need. The B60 engine spares are available at a price. You can get brake hoses made up & there were a few servos around at a price. But most other things you can sort out equivalents or make up yourself.

[Rover8FFR]

Being on a forum like this and getting to know people certainly helps

 

I know someone ( :whistle::whistle::whistle:) who would suggest having a copy of the relevant EMER's and Parts Lists on your phone for when you attend military parts sales etc.

 

Some parts were commonly used on other vehicles as Clive has eluded to. So subject knowledge is important.

 

I would strongly suggest getting a copy of the Parts CD. Available off eBay and also the User Handbook (Copy) off Milweb Library too.

 

They have certainly helped me get my head around an FV1611A.

 

Best wishes

[troy]

hello troy from port lincoln can some one put me in right directions to find parts for humber pig cheers

[Terra1936]

I am interested in Humber Pig Master cylinder and all wheel cylinder kits or made up? Any suggestions or cross reference? 

[Terra1936]

Needs complete brake rebuild. 

[AFV]

On 4/4/2013 at 9:15 PM, fv1609 said:

James brakes are not really a problem. They are operated hydraulically by Lockhead & lot easier to set up than Girling in Land Rovers. The handbrake acts directly by a linkage on each cylinder, not a transmission brake like on a Land Rover. You won't get new slave cylinders, you will have to rebuild them. They are a bit fiddly but the cup is the same size as for a 101. Master cylinders are fairly easy to get & service kits.

 

But at least the clutch mechanism needs no hydraulics, it is just a pedal & linkage to the clutch.

 

As for tyres unless the tyres are good it immediately knocks £1,000 off the value in my view. For that is the price you might expect to pay if you found some surplus ones.There seem to be no sources of run flat tyres of the required size any more. So you have to rely on a chance purchase of someone having a clear out, giving up etc. Someone has fitted truck tyres but they are not RF so carrying a spare with a Pig doesn't really look right.

 

What you have to get used to is that there is no Humber spare parts autofactors where you can buy something you need. The B60 engine spares are available at a price. You can get brake hoses made up & there were a few servos around at a price. But most other things you can sort out equivalents or make up yourself.

 

[AFV]

Hi, just an add on comment, in relation to B60 engine spares. There is no problem getting any spare parts for them, everything is available, from various folk or suppliers. Con rods, shells, genny, head gaskets, fuel pump, etc. Hope this helps.

[Terra1936]

10 hours ago, AFV said:

 

Thanks. Yes hoses are not a problem. Finding the crossovers are. What master cylinder service kit would I ask for and where? 

[AFV]

2 hours ago, Terra1936 said:

Thanks. Yes hoses are not a problem. Finding the crossovers are. What master cylinder service kit would I ask for and where? 

Hi, I was referring to the B60 engine, not the brakes.  I'm unsure which MC a Pig uses.

[fv1609]

4 hours ago, Terra1936 said:

Thanks. Yes hoses are not a problem. Finding the crossovers are. What master cylinder service kit would I ask for and where? 

Master cylinder repair kit (1½ in.bore) KL71414, Bedford: Z1404
Master cylinder with fittings, LV6/MT1/AU/LK33231, FV17207
(Same as on Morris MRA1)
(Same as Kew Dodge 1940 30/40 CT, 2 Ton, ¾ Ton, & 2/3 Ton 1947-51)
Master cylinder assembly, with push rod of various types, Lockhead 15054, 15055, 15056, 13827. BMC: 2H2697
Master cylinder assembly, less push rod, Lockhead 10951, BMC: 17H7090, Chrysler/Dodge: D13470
Master cylinder main cup 1½ in., LV6/MT9/AU/LK563, Lockhead 563,
BMC: 7H7020, Rootes: K19310, Ford: 208179, Chrysler/Dodge: T1315
Master cylinder secondary cup, 1½ in., LV6/MT9/AU/LK14562, Lockhead 14562.
BMC: 7H7204, Bedford: 7054166, Rootes: K19313, Ford: 208178, Chrysler/Dodge: D13070
Master cylinder valve assembly, Lockhead 88037, BMC: 17H7422, Rootes: K19306, Chrysler/Dodge: D16397/7
Master cylinder boot, LV6/MT1/AU/LK30129, Lockhead 1778,
BMC:7H7035, Bedford:7053604, Rootes: K19317, Chrysler/Dodge: T1324
Master cylinder piston, Lockhead 1771, BMC: 7H7032, Rootes: K19493, Chrysler/Dodge: T1313A

[Terra1936]

1 hour ago, fv1609 said:

Master cylinder repair kit (1½ in.bore) KL71414, Bedford: Z1404
Master cylinder with fittings, LV6/MT1/AU/LK33231, FV17207
(Same as on Morris MRA1)
(Same as Kew Dodge 1940 30/40 CT, 2 Ton, ¾ Ton, & 2/3 Ton 1947-51)
Master cylinder assembly, with push rod of various types, Lockhead 15054, 15055, 15056, 13827. BMC: 2H2697
Master cylinder assembly, less push rod, Lockhead 10951, BMC: 17H7090, Chrysler/Dodge: D13470
Master cylinder main cup 1½ in., LV6/MT9/AU/LK563, Lockhead 563,
BMC: 7H7020, Rootes: K19310, Ford: 208179, Chrysler/Dodge: T1315
Master cylinder secondary cup, 1½ in., LV6/MT9/AU/LK14562, Lockhead 14562.
BMC: 7H7204, Bedford: 7054166, Rootes: K19313, Ford: 208178, Chrysler/Dodge: D13070
Master cylinder valve assembly, Lockhead 88037, BMC: 17H7422, Rootes: K19306, Chrysler/Dodge: D16397/7
Master cylinder boot, LV6/MT1/AU/LK30129, Lockhead 1778,
BMC:7H7035, Bedford:7053604, Rootes: K19317, Chrysler/Dodge: T1324
Master cylinder piston, Lockhead 1771, BMC: 7H7032, Rootes: K19493, Chrysler/Dodge: T1313A

Clive thanks for the Great Information. I am in the states and not one of the numbers shows up on a google search? Is there a UK or European Supplier? 

[fv1609]

That list was compiled from various vehicle parts lists but also cross-referencing to several Lockhead catalogues where part numbers were regularly superceded that adds to the difficulty in following up equivalents which themselves are unlikely to have been made recently.

If your bore is rusty & needs re-sleeving you might consider a complete cylinder. Check with the seller but I think you will find this is the same:

https://marcusglenn.com/parts/daimler-ferret-fv-700-series/ferret-brake-master-cylinder