Griffo Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Hi guys, I have the chance to buy an original Welbike engine with a 3 digit engine number, my question is how much would this be worth if I was to sell it on? It has no manifolds with so it's just a bog standard engine?? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 But is the engine number prefixed XXE? Which is correct for an Excelsior Welbike. Most engines you see are prefixed XXA for the Autocycles. The XXA engines fetch around £100. A genuine Welbike engine could be worth 5-10 as much. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 Hi Ron, thanks for the repl, the seller states that the serial number starts XXE 7?? So it's a pretty early Welbike if it's legit. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 It would seem so Dave. Good find! However there is nothing recorded to my knowledge that indicates the engine number sequence.The first contract for Welbikes bore frame numbers 14-1213 ( for some reason the first 13 frame numbers are missing). I don't know if they started life with matching frame/eng numbers? Or just fitted any engine into any frame. My own MK1 is from this 1st contract with frame number 555. The bike was found derelict in India with eng 1893. Was it the original engine or a replacement??? Maybe Lex has more info on this.? Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 It would seem so Dave. Good find! However there is nothing recorded to my knowledge that indicates the engine number sequence.The first contract for Welbikes bore frame numbers 14-1213 ( for some reason the first 13 frame numbers are missing).I don't know if they started life with matching frame/eng numbers? Or just fitted any engine into any frame. My own MK1 is from this 1st contract with frame number 555. The bike was found derelict in India with eng 1893. Was it the original engine or a replacement??? Maybe Lex has more info on this.? Ron Hi Ron and Dave, sorry just back from my holliday in Marrakech, but the quick answer is that the WB's never had matching numbers, but there are other ways of seeing if it's an original engine or not, some detail pictures are needed though. Ron's engine number seems high for the original (belonging to frame 555) one, but would have to check my lists. Cheers, Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted October 31, 2012 Author Share Posted October 31, 2012 Hi guys, thanks for the info but I passed up the offer of the engine as I wasn't sure it was correct or not as the engine number seemed very low, it didn't have any manifolds with it but it did have the decompressor blanking plug which was original so maybe it was?? Who knows eh?? Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 OK, Dave, the blanking plug is a plus, but they are being repro'd..... Do you know what the seller was asking? have a similar engine here (MKII) that might be for sale, am reconditioning a couple right now! Cheers, Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 Hi Lex, nice collection of engines there! The engine I was looking at was in a home made scooter from the 1950's it was registered in 1949, the engine number was what attracted me but it would have only been for me to sell on as I have a nice running engine in my repro Welbike or I may have swapped it over but I've got too much on at the mo so I let it go! The bike went for £460 if that helps. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Hello I have a Welbike number 800 on frame and engine is XXE 907 so does anyone have info on this bike and motor please Thanks Ronnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Hello Ronnie, Seems the engine is original to the frame, I make it: Model: MKI Frame: 800 Engine:XXE907 Census number on tanks: C4659270 Contract number: S789 Your Welbike was not on my register, but have several numbers quite close. I can check on your numbers if you send me some pictures of them: http://welbike@welbike.net Cheers, Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bvobob Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 There is a welbike forsale on ebay https://www.ebay.com/itm/1946-Other-Makes/392903314416 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenkinov Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 Can anyone read the frame number ? Jenkinov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltwtbarmy Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) Engine number XXE3284 Chassis/contract number 294/23/S1946 Edited August 10, 2020 by ltwtbarmy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) The framenumber is on the front of the headstock, usually not stamped very clearly, so easily painted over. It will be in the 302X-303X range though. Contract is the last contract, but is not 1946, this has put people on the wrong path for many times! Cheers, Lex Edited August 10, 2020 by welbike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpw43simon Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 hi guys i have a 43 british airborne jeep and i am trying to find a welbike to complement it I know that they are like rocking horse poo but i would be happy with a box of parts do any of you know of any avalable Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 A pile of parts will still be over 10K, that's the problem I guess...... Cheers, Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Stevenson Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Gentlemen good evening, I occasionally view this site for any interesting conversations regarding historic military vehicles. This one regarding the Welbike grabbed my attention. Could any of you experts please confirm the make of carburettor fitted to the Villiers Junior engine. I have an elderly pal who has such a machine and am trying to assist him to get it fully running again. What I really need is an overhaul kit and engineering drawing of the carb so as to make sense of the assembly. Are there any suppliers of such repair kits. Thanks in advance. Andy S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 (edited) The carb is a Villiers V576E and parts should be readily available from "Villiers Services" and "Welbike UK" Books on Welbikes are available on line by Peter Miller and Rob Van Meel as well as parts lists and maintenance manuals. Ron Edited June 18, 2021 by Ron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welbike Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I can send scans free of charge, PM me. Lex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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