Niels v Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 looks like a conquer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenger Posted February 24, 2012 Author Share Posted February 24, 2012 Yes a Conqueror, 07 BA 74 The vehicle is actually a rebuilt Caernarvon. These pictures taken at the same time as the Sherman picture. Tank in the background? Comet, one of several at Kirkcudbright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenivers Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Thanks chaps , i thought the turret looked like a Conquerors but thought it would be a lot bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Nice pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RattlesnakeBob Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 That Sherman is confusing me:undecided:.... .....wide tracks and horizontal suspension denotes a fairly late model Sherman doesn't it???.... but it's got (what looks like to me anyways) the 75mm 'stubby' earlier gun??? or am I completely and hopelessly wrong !? hahah?.... she does look pretty smashed up too .....what a shame...... see what you mean about the corrosion ..it does look really bad...even stripping some useable bits off her would prove a challenge I reckon ...you'd want more than a bit of penetrating oil I reckon ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 It's an M4(105)HVSS or Sherman IBY in British parlance. It's the mate to the one that used to sit outside The Tank Museum. It has the 105mm howitzer. Late M4A3s were built as 75mm on big hatch hulls and HVSS so it's not as simple as 75mm = early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RattlesnakeBob Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 (edited) It's an M4(105)HVSS or Sherman IBY in British parlance. It's the mate to the one that used to sit outside The Tank Museum. It has the 105mm howitzer. Late M4A3s were built as 75mm on big hatch hulls and HVSS so it's not as simple as 75mm = early. you knows yer Shermans fer sure Adrian. ........incidentally ..the one you mention that used to be outside Bovington?.....I first visited there around 79 /80 ish I guess and I recall one outside that looked that one...it was alongside an 8 wheel armoured car of some sorts?.lovely bit of kit.what happened to that one then ?do they still have it? also.ps: in the photo of the inside of the turret....there's a small square hatch? was that to lob the spent shell cases out of ?..or for something more technical?... Edited February 24, 2012 by RattlesnakeBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 It's still at Bovington, in store. The hatch is the pistol port, that's the official name but it's unlikely it was used for that purpose much. It does give another view on the world for the loader and somewhere to throw out the empty cartridges. It was deleted from production in early 1943 but reintroduced later due to complaints from users. All Sherman models built from mid 1943 to early 1944 did not have it, Grizzlies being a prime example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenger Posted February 27, 2012 Author Share Posted February 27, 2012 Comet, one of several on the range at Kirkcudbright. I have quite a few photographs of the Comets there, would it be useful if I stared another thread just for the Comet at Kirk. If not I will continue to post here. These are all of the same vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RattlesnakeBob Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 crikey :wow:that's got some serious holes ! .............nothing a good fella with a stick welder couldn't fill tho ! heheheh!:cheesy: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenger Posted February 28, 2012 Author Share Posted February 28, 2012 Comet number two. As has been said on here before the tanks on Kirkcudbright have a good side and appalling side. This is not completely beyond hope though, if you are looking for suspension bits and odds and ends from inside. The reg number seems to be ... ... ZR 22 I have a higher definition picture if anyone is interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenger Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share Posted February 29, 2012 Some from a firing range in Egypt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 i love this thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted February 29, 2012 Share Posted February 29, 2012 Rick, you only like it as others are giving you a "buffet style" viewing of the goods that you can oggle at and decide which one your going to grab next to restore . . . . :iloveyou: R:dancinggirls: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenger Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 Comet number three at Kirkcudbright. Pretty bashed up with no good side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenivers Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 i love this thread It saddens me .:-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenger Posted March 1, 2012 Author Share Posted March 1, 2012 One for Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 That doesn't look very common, the tortoise perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddy8men Posted March 1, 2012 Share Posted March 1, 2012 there's a great big hole in the front of my centaur that would look much better with that besa mount stuck over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenger Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 Old Chieftain. The Tank Museum have acquired what is to be believed to be P6 and reckon it is the oldest in existence. I alerted them to the fact that it had been removed from the gate at Chertsey and was residing at Bordon awaiting disposal. By the time they had moved it had gone for scrap, luckily they negotiated with the dealer and retrieved it. Not sure it is the oldest mind as P5 is on the range at Kirkcudbright along with an old un-armoured one. 00 DA 05 Not sure how old that one is. Below is P5 at Kirkcudbright when placed and now [/font] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenger Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 Some interesting stuff that could be found in Germany until quite recently. Sadly gone now. I believe one of the guns has gone to the Panzer Museum at Munster Oertze, formaly known as Munsterlager Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joris Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Old Chieftain. The Tank Museum have acquired what is to be believed to be P6 and reckon it is the oldest in existence. I alerted them to the fact that it had been removed from the gate at Chertsey and was residing at Bordon awaiting disposal. By the time they had moved it had gone for scrap, luckily they negotiated with the dealer and retrieved it. Not sure it is the oldest mind as P5 is on the range at Kirkcudbright along with an old un-armoured one. 00 DA 05 Not sure how old that one is. Another one saved, well done!! Keep the pics coming, they are brilliant and very sad at the same time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenger Posted March 7, 2012 Author Share Posted March 7, 2012 Some more taken at Haltern near Munster. All pictures are fairly old but I'm told most of the wrecks are still there. These ones include Conqueror, Centurion, AMX 13, M47 and Centurion ARV. I was told before I went there that the tank that is upside down was in fact a German WW2 vehicle. I was very excited but alas no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenger Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Some more Comet, all at Kirkcudbright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
challenger Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Anyone got one of these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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