wdbikemad Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Does anybody have any examples or knowledge of some of the trial/experimental items of British military webbing from the 1970's ? I have a couple of full sets of the "1972" pattern nylon webbing, complete with the scarce rear-pouch (always missing)....components from the sets being dated from 1971 through to 1973...... I've also got a near-complete set of '58 webbing but made throughout in green nylon....I'm missing only the waterbottle carrier and the poncho roll carrier.....this set is a genuine issue item and is stamped and NSN marked and dated around 1977.......it bears various numbers and some components have clearly been issued and used..... Be interested to sample some feedback on these items....! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevpol Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Does anybody have any examples or knowledge of some of the trial/experimental items of British military webbing from the 1970's ? I have a couple of full sets of the "1972" pattern nylon webbing, complete with the scarce rear-pouch (always missing)....components from the sets being dated from 1971 through to 1973...... I've also got a near-complete set of '58 webbing but made throughout in green nylon....I'm missing only the waterbottle carrier and the poncho roll carrier.....this set is a genuine issue item and is stamped and NSN marked and dated around 1977.......it bears various numbers and some components have clearly been issued and used..... Be interested to sample some feedback on these items....! :shocked::shocked::shocked: piccys please!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have only seen a few bits of the 1972, and nothing of the nylon 58. Am not really jealous, no not really! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdbikemad Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 :shocked::shocked::shocked: piccys please!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have only seen a few bits of the 1972, and nothing of the nylon 58. Am not really jealous, no not really! Mark I'll try and arrange some photos Mark. My collection is not stored at home (too large) so will have to find time to extracate it and picture.... Rather interestingly, the '72 pattern rear pack contains a built-in machette sheath....I wonder if this set was intended for jungle use ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer nut Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 There is two butt pouches for the 72 patt and i think a susat pouch and defently a bergan. Mark Darren has a set of the 72 along with the utility straps and bergan. Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer nut Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 Have you not the modern webbing book printed not long ago? ta Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdbikemad Posted May 4, 2011 Author Share Posted May 4, 2011 (edited) Have you not the modern webbing book printed not long ago?ta Jon I have the book.....plus a few MOD photos showing the set being worn.....there IS a large back-pack for the set, worn above the rear (small) pack......plus utility straps (I have these)....the yoke for the set is very similar to a '58 yoke but in nylon and featuring plastic, not metal buckles.......although termed '72 pattern I have a set of pouches and a rear pack dated 1971.....!?? The larger pack is described as having 4 separate compartments with a drawstring "bag" within to secure the contents...from the photos it looks rather square and "boxy" and more than a tad inflexible.....there was also a load-carrying frame, smaller and lighter than the '44 pattern manpack carrier..... Soldier Magazine announced that the '72 pattern webbing was undergoing troop trials during that year, with an anticipated in-service date of 1975....clearly, this never happened.........I guess the set wasn't robust or flexible enough for service, and the large pack a bit of an out-dated item by the '70s..... Not sure about the Susat pouch though.....this may be related to the '72 pattern set but does not feature in the official piccies.....it may be an item made in nylon and simply added to any webbing set worn at the time (eg - '58 or '44 pattern)..... Edited May 4, 2011 by wdbikemad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Drake Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 I have a green nylon webbing belt, no idea of the date, but in the Air Force were issued white nylon webbing belts for our basic training final parade, 1970. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevpol Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 The larger pack is described as having 4 separate compartments with a drawstring "bag" within to secure the contents...from the photos it looks rather square and "boxy" and more than a tad inflexible.....there was also a load-carrying frame, smaller and lighter than the '44 pattern manpack carrier..... Soldier Magazine announced that the '72 pattern webbing was undergoing troop trials during that year, with an anticipated in-service date of 1975....clearly, this never happened.........I guess the set wasn't robust or flexible enough for service, and the large pack a bit of an out-dated item by the '70s..... http://www.rafregiment.net/images/1Sqn%20route%20march%201981.jpg I found this piccy of a rock ape, is this the large pack? :- Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdbikemad Posted May 5, 2011 Author Share Posted May 5, 2011 http://www.rafregiment.net/images/1Sqn%20route%20march%201981.jpg I found this piccy of a rock ape, is this the large pack? :- Mark It doesn't resemble the one in the official photos, that appears to have long side pouches secured by the strange plastic clips also found on the ammo pouches.........the rock ape's pack also seems to be on an external frame, so may be a commercial variant common at the time........also common at the time was the issue 'tache....! I handed mine in when I left....!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer nut Posted May 8, 2011 Share Posted May 8, 2011 The large pack as far as I know is what became the GS Bergan and was fitted with the same clips as the webbing. The bum pouch is what I was refering to, there is a standard one and then the one with the machette sheaf. Ta Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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