Barrie Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 A friend of mine has just purchased an early 1960's Unimog Radio van. The vehicle is reasonably complete, inside and out, except for the actual radios. Can anyone assist with tyes of radios fitted, GRC9, PRC or latterly SEM 35/25 etc. Any pictures would be much appreciated. Thanks in anticipation Barrie [barrie@griff98.fsnet.co.uk] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogmaner Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I beleave SEM 25 were fitted to the early ones ,you find the listed on ebay de ,if you can give me the year i may be able to help a little more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apaja007 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 View on ebay.de http://sammeln.shop.ebay.de/Funk-Fernmeldetechnik-/37400/i.html?_catref=1&_fln=1&_trksid=p3286.c0.m282 Rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apaja007 Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Here you have a forum for members of military unimog http://www.multi-board.com/board/index.php?page=Board&boardID=69 Rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willyslancs Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Here you have a forum for members of military unimog http://www.multi-board.com/board/index.php?page=Board&boardID=69Rafal just checked that forum out , also good for munga s , cheers mate:tup:: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogmaner Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 Try this site for a very well equiped 404 radio box http://www.noorloos.nl/unimog/unimog.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schliesser92 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 These radio Mogs were in three versions - ELINT, radio-relay and "steam radio" ELINT - normally as a DF vehicle, radio-relay - with the Siemens DFM12/800 (SR C70 in British service) both these versions had a pneumatic mast mounted on the nearside (theirs- not ours!) The equipment for radio Mogs varied according to specific role and what was in service at the time. There was also a version with a somewhat lower cabin fitted with the GRC3-8 (relatively rare) Some were also used in other roles, with minimal modifications, ie as command vehicles with airfield crash/rescue units, and would therefore have mud-to-air sets fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogmaner Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 This link may help on line parts and repair manual for unimog 404 http://s272261875.websitehome.co.uk./gal251981502/pdf/unimog_404_manual.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barrie Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 Thanks to everyone for their replies. I believe the Unimog is 1962/3 ish [?] I was thinking of perhaps a SEM25 and a GRC9 ? Your thoughts plse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 82 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 (edited) Hi Barrie, I may be able to assist. Am into ex Bundeswehr radio vehicles and have the Teletype relay station Mog (funkfernschreib) - see a couple of pics here: http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread.php?10794-Hi-There-from-Kidderminster-!&p=111616#post111616 From discussions with Steff in the distant past, I believe the vehicle is an FM version - though there were several sub-models again ! Have a number of different original radio fit manuals for the Mog so, PM in the first instance and will see what I can do. Be warned though, the full radio fit could be difficult to source these days as these vehicles were disposed of between 10 and 15 years ago and, few were maintained in their original form. Whilst the radios are relatively straightforward to acquire (at a price)......its the accessories that cause the difficulty ! Cheers Steve 82 Edited February 24, 2011 by Steve 82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogmaner Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Nice looking moters hope to get mine to that standerd one day, found this vertion of the radio shelter on the web wound if any ones seen one befor ,apears to be a late 50s or early 60s build .the unimog club Gaggenau is a good sorce for finding parts, when i rebuilt my last mog they were able to supply some factory drawings for parts i needed to make.also unimog fourm de has a 404 section . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 82 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 (edited) Barrie and other Radio Mog fans, As mentioned above, the FM Mogs s came in a variety of flavours. Here is a particularly complete example of the FM – Telex broadcasting / re-broadcasting version based upon the SEM25: Interior: http://kreuzer-thomas.privat.t-online.de/HomepageClassic01/mogbelad.htm Exterior: http://kreuzer-thomas.privat.t-online.de/HomepageClassic01/unimog404s.htm My original Bundeswehr manual copies describe in detail all components for the above and several other FM-radio-fits based upon the Unimog 404 – down to individual NATO stock codes. If you can identify the exact version, then there is a good chance I can suggest a parts shopping list . Willem Noorloos of Holland has been mentioned earlier in the thread and, have been in touch with him for several years. However, as with a few other collectors, he uses the vehicle as a shack for all his military radio needs rather than as a strict rebuild of the original specification (please correct me if I am wrong). He may be able to help with radio fit details also. Not seen many recent commencial sources of manuals however, few years ago, a chap by the name of Delissen (in Holland I think) used to re-gurgitate copies of old NATO signals manuals. Might be worth trying to track him down through the Dutch amateur miliraty radio society (SRS). Hope the above helps Cheers Steve 82 Edited February 26, 2011 by Steve 82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schliesser92 Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Nice looking moters hope to get mine to that standerd one day, found this vertion of the radio shelter on the web wound if any ones seen one befor ,apears to be a late 50s or early 60s build .the unimog club Gaggenau is a good sorce for finding parts, when i rebuilt my last mog they were able to supply some factory drawings for parts i needed to make.also unimog fourm de has a 404 section . NOT a German Unimog shelter, it could be something transferred from another chassis, and not necessarily a Mog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogmaner Posted February 26, 2011 Share Posted February 26, 2011 Hears another early variation on the radio box fitted to a hard cab 404 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 82 Posted February 27, 2011 Share Posted February 27, 2011 (edited) Gents, Looking at the above hard-bodied versions, I think we have to differentiate between German Heer (Army) body types and those used by the other branches of the Armed forces (Bundeswehr) and Civil Defence / Police. (lets not get started on the Dutch and Swiss varieties for the moment). Remembering that all bodies (koffers) were produced by contractors as opposed to Mercedes, it is hardly suprising that differences regularly appeared - even in the same models. However, regarding the above b/w images, the first does appear to be police / civil defence (shiny paintwork !) and, the second could be an early Heer or Luftwaffe version - will have to check. I attach below an extract from an early 1960`s Unimog manual (Heer) illustrating the principal radio-bodied variations of the time (my personal vehicle is a Version 3.1). As you can see from the first image, there was at least one higher bodied version recognised by the Heer. Cheers Steve 82 Edited February 27, 2011 by Steve 82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schliesser92 Posted February 28, 2011 Share Posted February 28, 2011 variant 3.10 is the version with the AN/GRC3-8. The BGS radio vehicle in the photo (BG 30-543) has a non-standard body, probably transferred from another vehicle, ie a Hanomag AL28. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tankie88 Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 The 1st b/w pic is a Mog from the Brit army in Berlin hence the XG number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schliesser92 Posted March 4, 2011 Share Posted March 4, 2011 The 1st b/w pic is a Mog from the Brit army in Berlin hence the XG number. I think that the shelter was made by Glas, since then taken over by BMW. It has the same styling as a workshop vehicle built by them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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