robin craig Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 I would like to fit Clansman intercoms to our 432. Which manual ie name and number and description should I be looking for at a manual supplier? I would like one that shows how and where to wire in and mount the various boxes. Ours is a Mk2/1 Bowman fit but would like to back date to Clansman intercom as we have it in stock. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Robin what you need to look for is Army Code No.61737/1-7 & the CSSH version Army Code No. 62059. There is also coverage in EMER COMMUNICATIOS INSTALLATIONS H200-209 H210-219 H240-249 I have AC 62059 I can't copy all of it but if the usual manual suppliers can't supply, I can copy a few of the critical pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airportable Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 If I can not find a original manual I use www.vintagemvmanuals.co.uk But there is plenty of other dealers about. What I have found with the Users handbooks is that a installation may need more than one manual i.e. Army code no. 61590 Part7 Supplement 1....2.....3..etc. The Radio operators handbooks tend to hold the most general information. Hope of a little help. Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 PS Actual titles: AC 61737 Clansman Radio Installations in FV432 AC 62059 Clansman CSSH Installations in FV432 AC 61834 Clansman Secure Speech Harness (CSSH) AC 61004 Reference Book for Clansman AC 44618 CES Installation Kit Clansman Basic Harness FV432 AC 44697 CES Installation Kit Two-Tier rack in FV432 AC 44763 CES Installation Kit Command Harness 2-set Clansman in FV432 AC 44835 CES Installation Kit Command Harness 3-set Clansman in FV432 AC 44700 CES Conversion Kit Command to permit Clansman Radio in FV432 Also EMER TELECOMMUNICATIONS L600-L609 Clansman Radio Control Harness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 Clive, so would AC 44618 basic harness be the best one to buy as we only want to do an intercom set up? R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 Andy, I am in touch with vintage manuals already, he is a good bloke and gets back to you within a reasonable time frame and tells you exactly what you are buying. Looks like I will be buying quite a package from him so far, just about to finalise order. Thanks R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Clive, so would AC 44618 basic harness be the best one to buy as we only want to do an intercom set up? R Probably not, it would only tell you what you need but not where to put it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) The Clansman manuals for the FV432 are a bit of mess, with information all over the place. If you just want to install an intercom, all you need is an IC2/3 and a couple of CB2/3s together with appropriate lengths of double-ended seven-pin cables to daisy-chain the boxes together. Power comes from a rather afterthought-looking box (see attached) that's fed from the Radio Distribution Box, you just need a single 24V supply into the IC3. The real problem is likely to be the mounting arrangements. All the Clansman boxes fit directly onto studs welded to the hull. If the Bowman mountings are different you'll have to re-jig them somehow. Here's a rather mud-bespattered CB3 at the driver's position: Andy Edited January 8, 2011 by andym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Thanks for the info, I do not recognise that grey boy in the first pictures as anything we have in stock, so there is a problem right off the bat. I will have to delve into the vehicle and see what I can find. Im going through the same process for the Stormer as well, as driver to commander comms is a safety issue in my mind. Thanks R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I think the grey Radio JB is 432-specific rather than generic Clansman. There's a certain "home-made" look about it and no NSN visible. It simply contains a pair of terminal strips; 24V comes in from the 4-pin socket on the side of the radio JB under the air circulating fan and exits on assorted 2-pin plugs to match the Clansman IC3 and loudspeaker amplifier. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 So Im guessing in a pinch we could make our own grey box if they are not available as an FV part number. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidewinder Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Robin, if this is the box you need I think I might have a few in my 432 that I don't want. Certainly look similar to this, although its been a while since I've had a close look. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 James, just getting back to this workshop project, will be looking on Tuesday night when we do maintenance Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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