Pzkpfw-e Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 I'm guessing it's in the UK, judging by the wall posters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted December 25, 2010 Share Posted December 25, 2010 PM Sent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchinuk Posted December 26, 2010 Share Posted December 26, 2010 I'm guessing it's in the UK, judging by the wall posters. According to a thread elsewhere, it's at A+S in Suffolk, being restored for unnamed (and rich) customer. Apparently has an FV432 engine & gear box. jch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzkpfw-e Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 Would one be correct in assuming that this tank is now.... ......this tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runflat Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 The show guide lists the Panzer IV as being entered by The Royal Jordanian Tank Museum. This says restored by Stephen Lamonby: http://www.warandpeaceshow.com/News/News/RARE-PANZER-IV-TO-STAR-AT-WAR-AND-PEACE-SHOW.html Not sure that answers your question though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rnixartillery Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Correct ! shame to butcher such a rare vehicle considering a drive train could have been sourced. Rob......................rnixartillery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scammell4199 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 looks fantastic, but im sorry surely the correct drivetrain could have been found. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runflat Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Judging by the picture here, it was pretty butchered to begin with: http://www.tankmuseum.org/ixbin/indexplus?record=ART2992 Or is that another one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 looks fantastic, but im sorry surely the correct drivetrain could have been found. According to the War and Peace programme an engine is being looked for but has not yet been found ! As the owner is rather wealthy I would imagine it will have the correct engine as soon as possible ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scammell4199 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Good on him then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markheliops Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 (edited) I can shed some light on this as I collected it from A&S and transported it to Beltring. The picture from the tank museum is the actual vehicle. When recovered from an army range it was in two pieces (split wide open) and has taken 4 years to restore. As for the engine and steering unit - it is from an FV432 (K60 power pack) as the manufacturers units are very difficult, if not impossible to obtain. Personally I prefer to see the thing moving around rather than sitting there looking pretty. As for the owner - sorry but my lips are sealed. Markheliops Edited July 27, 2011 by Markheliops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzkpfw-e Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) As for the owner - sorry but my lips are sealed. Mark, The owner's identity is no secret, just look at the entry list in the W&P programme, or the list of prizewinners on the website. Incidentally, talking of prize winners, how can a Panzer IV and M5A1 Stuart, win 1st and 2nd prizes in a category for "Best British Tracked Armour" ?? When I judged that class some years ago, I only looked at vehicles Made in Britain. The following year, someone else judged, and awarded it to a Chaffee !!! Edited July 28, 2011 by Richard Farrant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Mark, The owner's identity is no secret, just look at the entry list in the W&P programme, or the list of prizewinners on the website. Incidentally, talking of prize winners, how can a Panzer IV and M5A1 Stuart, win 1st and 2nd prizes in a category for "Best British Tracked Armour" ?? When I judged that class some years ago, I only looked at vehicles Made in Britain. The following year, someone else judged, and awarded it to a Chaffee !!! In 2009 my Sabre was runner up in the Best British Tracked Armour category. The winner was an M3 Stuart built in the USA and imported from Brazil. I think the judges need reminding what they are judging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I never enter a vehicle for judging, the winner is usually the prettiest vehicle or a friend of the judge..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fesm_ndt Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 very nice to have rebuilt that, I wouldnt care if it had a Toyota Hilux engine in it, they have started with nothing and built something that looks the part. As someone said earlier it's better that it moves than is a static display Damn, PLEASE I don't want to start up the originality argument again, just full kudos to the guys that want to invest their time, money and effort into rebuilding something most people would not dream of rebuilding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) Damn, PLEASE I don't want to start up the originality argument again, just full kudos to the guys that want to invest their time, money and effort into rebuilding something most people would not dream of rebuilding. Well said! (I'm a bit of an admirer of the Hilux myself - maybe a 5 unit multibank like a Sherman would work OK :-D) Edited July 28, 2011 by N.O.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markheliops Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Mark, The owner's identity is no secret, just look at the entry list in the W&P programme, or the list of prizewinners on the website. Richard old bean - don't believe everything you read............................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 There's something just a lttle sad about that. At least you can be honest about a good old WW2 GMC! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m109a3uk Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 In 2009 my Sabre was runner up in the Best British Tracked Armour category. The winner was an M3 Stuart built in the USA and imported from Brazil. I think the judges need reminding what they are judging. My Rapier was runner up this year:-D Nice to be in the arena again for an award and shake the hand of a Vet! not been in there since the AA Jeep won best runner up:cool2: a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 At Tankfest the guys driving it and the info board said it was owned by the Jordanians, I presume the King. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 pounder Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 At Tankfest the guys driving it and the info board said it was owned by the Jordanians, I presume the King. that's exactly what we've been told by a " very reliable source " ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbo Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 that's exactly what we've been told by a " very reliable source " ! I know of another vehicle (quite different to this one!) being restored for the King of Jordan at the moment. He is obviously a bit of an armour fan !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 pounder Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I know of another vehicle (quite different to this one!) being restored for the King of Jordan at the moment. He is obviously a bit of an armour fan !! So am I , we obviously don't have the same financial possibilities :cry::cry::cry::cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pzkpfw-e Posted July 31, 2011 Author Share Posted July 31, 2011 He's got quite a collection now, a Hetzer & a Panther too. The latter being the result of a very controversial swap with Saumur for a Challenger & a Saladin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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