chevpol Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 some more........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevpol Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 P51C Princess Elizabeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevpol Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 Bristol Beaufighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie The Jeep Posted March 11, 2011 Author Share Posted March 11, 2011 Some of those go back more than a few years! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevpol Posted March 11, 2011 Share Posted March 11, 2011 final 3............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 (edited) In the last set of photo's the modified fighter , has the engine been shifted foreward to correct the CG needed to account for the second cockpit ? just wonder whats needed to keep things in balance when its flying with one or two aboard. Edited March 12, 2011 by abn deuce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike65 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 In the last set of photo's the modified fighter , has the engine been shifted foreward to correct the CG needed to account for the second cockpit ? just wonder whats needed to keep things in balance when its flying with one or two aboard. Never thought about that, it probably has some effect, but maybe possible to just trim it. Both Spitfires in that post are modified 2 seaters. I believe the top one is ML407 which is a far less intrusive conversion and was undertaken in 1950 by Supermarine http://www.ml407.co.uk/pages/ There were 5 (IIRC) 2 seaters at Duxford in September Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie The Jeep Posted March 12, 2011 Author Share Posted March 12, 2011 To the best of my knowledge, the nose hasn't been lengthened. The second cockpit occupies the space that would have been full of radios, oxygen bottles etc. While there would be a change in C of G position by adding the second cockpit, it is still pretty close to the C of G, and flying with or without a passenger should have minimal effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abn deuce Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Thanks for the info Jessie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 The forward cockpit is 13" further forward than when a single seater so the C of G is averaged a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike65 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Looking through this thread got me thinking that I have a few of these hanging around so looked out afe. Here we have a Pilatus P2 in Swiss colours getting a bit of Fuel at Booker. IIRC this would have been around 1982 Another Pilatus P2 but this time wearing a WW2 Luftwaffe paint job. This was late 80's at North Weald. A very low flying Spitfire at Biggin Hill, would have beed around 1981 and at a guess its Ray Hannah in MH434. Sally B at north Weald in an unusual formation with the Catalina/Canso (its one or the other anyway). Sally B with a fighter escort. The fighter escort making a low pass. Used to take a lot less photos in the days of film. Not sure if that was a good thing or a bad thing. Trying to rember what camera I used. The North Weald ones would have been a Praktika MTL5 SLR, but the othes were most likly a Halina rangefinder with fixed lens. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevpol Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 nice piccys, nice to see the king cobra flying Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 para Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Now for some 'Parafin Plamtrees'. Westland Wessex. Do the haircuts give away the decade? Another Wessex, this time in the Fleet Air Arm Museum, taken in 1982. I have a feeling this Wessex was in the Falklands and the orange dots on it mark bullet holes? Perhaps someone who has visited recently can confirm or clarify. blimey it's humphery .i remember this old boy from the falklands and yes the orange dots are covering bullet holes ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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