Its me Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Hi all just a quick one and that is what is a CES Kit? Buster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtistsRifles Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 From memory - the Complete Equipment Schedule - this is a document that specifies every item of kit to be carried on a vehicle. If memory serves further the appropriate document number is stamped on the vehicles ID plate?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilitantGraham Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 There's an example of a Land Rover one here. http://www.aecmilitant.co.uk/downloads/tum-ces.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 On a regimental or squadron move, the Troop (Platoon, etc, but I am thinking Recce) Sergeant travels with the Advance Party and signs over all of the vehicles, having checked each against its own particular CES. When the main party arrives, Troop Sergeant then signs over each vehicle to its driver (turret equipment to the gunner). Because the CES is (was) a paper document, susceptible to rain, oil. getting lost by incompetent drivers, etc, the wording on the Army Form, General AFG1033 would read something like "Scorpion, 02FD14 complete as per CES 12345, less CES 12345" (sorry after all these years I have no idea what the CES number for a Scorpion might have been). So, come the day of reckoning (kit inspection), although the Tp Sgt has his signature on the formal document, he has in his hand a piece of paper that guarantees he passes the buck on to the driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tin Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 God, those were the days. Mind you the gunner had to do the same for his own CES kit as I remember. Certainly this was the case in the Household Cavalry anyway. We used to have occasional kit checks just to make sure you hadn't lost anything. My troop used to mark everything so as to make it that much harder to nick Mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted May 23, 2007 Share Posted May 23, 2007 Whilst browsing the trade stalls at War and Peace last year, we found a CES water container for inside the back door of our Sultan. It had a registration number painted on it, and when we checked the vehicle reg, it turned out to be the same! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tin Posted May 24, 2007 Share Posted May 24, 2007 Ooh now thats Eeriiiiiiiiiii. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grasshopper Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 I believe Preston Isaac aslo found the original drivers helmet for his Centurion AVRE at the trade stalls at W&P. It has MR WHIPPY written on it, which was the drivers nickname. This is more remarkable considering the vehicle was recovered from the Gulf sea bed! I think one of the lifting eyes gave way when the AVRE was being craned ashore during the first Gulf war, and it sank, to be recovered later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Its me Posted May 25, 2007 Author Share Posted May 25, 2007 now must admit that is very spooky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tin Posted May 25, 2007 Share Posted May 25, 2007 In 1977 takes you back a bit doesn't it, C sqn The Life Guards on AMF(L) were preparing to load up on Sir Galahad on our next trip to Norway. While loading one of our Scorpions by way of a slung platform on a crane, the wind picked up and the whole thing started to swing like a pendulum. The inevitable happened and the Scorpion fell into the drink between the quay side and the ship. Army divers went in to recover all the kit from the vehicle while another vehicle was quickly shuttled up from Windsor. The amazing thing was that the kit recovered from the vehicle in the drink was enough to service a complete troop of twelve soldiers. Now isn't that amazing!! Mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford 369 Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 When did the ces system start ? as I only ever see reference to it re later vehicles Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick W Posted July 20, 2007 Share Posted July 20, 2007 Ive no idea, but when I started out on this MV caper I thought NOS referred to vehicles fitted with a Nitrous Oxide System! I very quickly learnt though, without any cause of embarrassment to myself. This is probably due to my owning very fast jap cars until family life forced me to get something with 4 seats! :roll: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford 369 Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 does ces kit apply to all vehicles ?even motorcycles? Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 When did the ces system start ? as I only ever see reference to it re later vehicles Nigel I first saw a CES for a Scorpion on 20 May 1977, the day after we returned from an 18 month tour of Omagh, Co Tyrone as we signed for our vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigeP Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 does ces kit apply to all vehicles ?even motorcycles? Nigel Even military locomotives :-D Nige Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhc Posted July 24, 2007 Share Posted July 24, 2007 Even military radios have a CES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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