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Bill K.

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  1. Thank you for the additional data, Robert. I didn't know the WOA2A version was strictly postwar, and the WOA2 version was strictly wartime. Yours must come from the batch that ended in May 1944 (last wartime one). The WOA1 and WOA1A must both of course have been wartime models, since that staff car was only built from 1941 to 1944. You're right about the WOT2 production-figure discrepancy. I found an online version of the book you mention: http://website.lineone.net/~thompsonb/war/ford.htm It seems that when two or more production lists are available, they rarely will tally with each other. In some cases, one is true production and one is deliveries or sales. Sometimes exports are included in one and not in another. Not sure how to reconcile the WOT2 discrepancy. The Ford Anglia is a good example of this. The above list happens to tally with the annual reports in terms of Anglia production during wartime (Oct. 1939 through Aug. 1941), which was its first incarnation. But I have seen a reference that states more were turned out till Nov. 1941 (no figure given), and I have what are called production reports that show it still being turned out in dribbles till June 1942. All of this is in the Ford archives at Benson. This sort of thing must be the bane of every researcher!
  2. It looks like I found the answer, though nothing is broken down by year here in this wartime 1939-1945 production listing. The Anglia figure does tally up with the wartime portion of one set of figures I have for this model (October 1939 through August 1941). Another source is at variance (surprise, surprise) and shows the Anglia going till June 1942 (and the Prefect till February 1942). The "Model 61" must in fact be Model 62. I knew this model was still in limited production till 1941, but had no figures before now. The WOA1 figure is the most interesting. This should actually be called a staff car and not utility car; the utility was the WOA2. With the figure from this source, and the year-range from Dymock, we can say 1,623 WOA1 and WOA1A (6.50-16 instead of 9.00-13 tires) were built from 1941 to 1944. As for the WOA2 and WOA2A, 11,754 were built from 1941 to 1947, according to Vanderveen's Historic Military Vehicles Directory and Dymock's Ford in Britain File. The 9,059 total for this utility according to the attached document only refers to wartime production of this model, which according to Vanderveen's The Observer's Fighting Vehicles Directory, was in wartime production from May 1941 to July 1944. It must have resumed production after the war and been made till 1947.
  3. Don't know if anyone will find this useful or not, but I had scanned in the Morris Commercial (and Morris Light Van) pages of my 1948 edition of Motor Specifications and Prices for a friend, and thought I'd share it here. Unfortunately it doesn't cover the military-specific models from what I can see. I've also attached an Adderley Park production sheet. Most of the war years are lumped into a single production total, sadly, but fiscal 1944/45 is broken down by model, as are the postwar years.
  4. Hillman Minx Phase 1 cars debuted in late 1939 for model-year 1940. The pre-Phase 1 cars were phased out almost immediately. Up till November 1942, some 10,015 Minx saloons were built in total. Some were of the military type (smaller diameter headlights, no chrome, etc.) and some were of full civilian type (many were exported). Civilian types were still being turned out in small numbers in 1943. The military saloon, however, was continued in production during the entire war. From 1942 through 1944 a small number of these were diverted for essential civilian use. The only known figure for the pre-November-1942 period is the one I quoted above; Volume 1 of the Rootes Group War History is not extant. Volume 2 is, and I researched from it. I can quote chapter and verse on Minx saloon and ute production for the period December 1942 through November 1944. (I don't know if there ever was a Volume 3, picking up in December 1944.) At any rate, the Minx military saloon was still in production, and the civilian version of the Phase 1 replaced it during the latter part of 1945. Minx Utilities were produced at a much higher rate during the war than saloons were. The Hillman Fourteen saloon was also still being produced in 1940 in limited numbers, mainly for the Army and Royal Air Force.
  5. I realize this post is old, but I have some books and other data on Wolseley. What in particular are you looking for? It is true Gaydon does not have any Wolseley records for the 1930-1949 period. Since Anders Clausager's departure from there, though, it has become impossible to request even simple research to be done for you. You have to book in advance and then go yourself.
  6. Hi, Everyone: Does anyone have production data on the Ford WOA1 staff car? I can find scant data about the car in various publications, but none give production figures. I also have some 1940-1945 records of Dagenham production (photocopied at Benson Ford Research Center) but the WOA1 is not listed separately. The only book that even lists production years is Eric Dymock's Ford in Britain File, which states it was built from 1941 to 1944. Any data would be greatly appreciated. The WOA2, on the other hand, seems to have much more data available. Bill
  7. Hello, everyone! I live in the U.S. (New Jersey). I have been researching the production (and related sales, deliveries, exports, registrations, etc.) of passenger cars the world over during (and immediately after) World War II, and that of course includes staff cars. If anyone has data to share, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'd be happy to share what I have learned. I'll make some posts in the appropriate forums. Best Regards, Bill
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