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1944 AEC Matador Artily Tractor for sale High speed diffs, good mechanicals, original body, Very good tyres. cab is good, but will need O/S rear cab pillar and timber above O/S wheel arch done soon. Its a nice vehicle. Located near Stroud Glos. Looking for around £15K Call Dan on 07711839269 to view
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I am toying with the idea of selling my 2 1944 AEC O854 Coles cranes.The one is 85% restored, mechanically is excellent, Engine is like new, The cab has been restored and the brakes have been overhauled. just requires the crane restoration and modifications to the cab roof. The second is a running with operating crane (new lift cable), but has been heavily modified and has NO BRAKES. Between the two almost everything is there to complete the restoration with ease. They could really do with going to a museum or serious collector to finish. Looking for around £12K ono for both which is nowhere near what i have spent on them. Located in Stroud, Glos. PM me if interested
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have you tried Bernie Smith. He sorted all my seals for my AEC O854 and was very very good. http://www.vintagevehiclespares.com/links.php
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question Morris 6 Cylinder engine, oil leak ?
16svt replied to thedawnpatrol's question in I may be stupid, but......
I know noting about these engines, But what is the breather arrangement ? check the breather is clear as any crank case pressurisation can cause a labyrinth seal to pass oil. -
Now on Ebay with pictures http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/-/222320108629?roken=cUgayN
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Try this https://www.vintagecarparts.co.uk/products/867-window-lift-channel
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This has just been posted on the AEC forum. It must be bloody rare if its was it says it is. http://middx.net/aec/board/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=766&sid=4488bc95878edcb28765b9b972762091
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I bought mine from here. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/262341306134?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT They seem to be good quality.
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They are breeding!!!!It seems I now have two.
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I know of about 6 O854 Coles cranes and about the same for the O854 refuels and a handful of timber tractors maybe a few more. There are bound to be more hiding away, but I would be certain there are no more than 30. If you do convert yours to air, the best thing to do would be find someone breaking a Matador and get the front cylinder and mounting brackets from the front axle. The mounting bracket just bolt onto the swivel pins and are an easy fit. You also need to use the longer brake arms and quadrant adjusters from the Matador set up as the hydraulic arms are shorter and it makes adjusting the brakes far easier. The O854 hydraulic system requires special shims that go under the brake shoes to adjust the brake up. I would imagine these would be almost impossible to find and would have to be made. The rear I would just use cylinders and mounting brackets from a MK1 Militant. I think that you would also need to change the operating arms, but i have not looked into this yet. What year is yours?
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Its quite possible to convert an O854 to full air brakes. I have a O854 Coles crane that has been converted very badly, I am thinking that if I continue with this lorry I am just going to rebuild the brake system with the MK1 Militant system. However, I have also just bought another O854 Coles with original Vac over Hydraulic brakes and I intend to keep this one as it is, as its so original. With companies like "past Part" and loads of others there is almost nothing you can't get repaired/rebuilt (at cost). Certainly I would not for see any problems getting hold of brake seals and hoses. Good luck with it Dan
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Please try and post some pics, I have just bought one for spare. but i am always interested in more depending on what they are like and how much. what area is it located in? Cheers Dan
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Mine is O853 6721 built August 1944
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http://www.rlcarchive.org A search for 18YZ54 shows they hold a key card for your vehicle and you can apply for a copy online. Its a great service and should shed a bit of light on your vehicles history. Off the top of my head, I would say that chassis number will date it to late 1944.
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No PLESAE don't stop, its very interesting. I check it for update every day. I asked about the engine as it has an exhauster fitted, I was just interested in if it had been built with vac over hydraulic brakes. Doug, you are doing a great job on an interesting and rare vehicle, keep it up and we all want as many photos as possible.
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i notice that its got an A196 engine. were Dorchesters Vac over hydraulic brake? or is it an engine replacement?
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Thanks for that, I will take another look on Monday.
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John Harrington on the Facebook AEC society page has informed me that my crane was RAF 122128 and then 21AC20. I will now send off to the RAF museum to see what records they hold.
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I have driven a MK6 Iron Fairy. They are quite unique. More like a forklift with a jib. you can't help moving with a load as the slew is so limited. Bloody useful bit of kit for getting into tight spaces and low hight. There really is nothing like them.
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What a great story and a happy ending, with some good advice thrown in. I alway air on the side of caution, but like you say you really need to watch for complacency. I have done a few lifts with my old girl now and she seems very stable. I have not tried moving with a load yet. I think that if i do it will only ever be with the load at the back.
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The other odd thing is that under the penciled amendment for the chassis number it states the colour as Yellow. I have now done a fair bit of work on the vehicle and at no time have i seen the colour yellow. The first coat over the undercoat is drab green, then Deep bronze green and then red. I know from the log book that the first registered keeper in 1950 was the Ministry of Supply, the next was The Department of Atomic Energy and then The Atomic Energy Authority. Now could it be that the Ministry of Supply took it from Surplus RAF stock? and registered it for road use in 1950? I really could do with finding the stamped chassis number. I have looked, but it is not in the same place as my Matador. Does anyone know where to find the chassis number on an AEC O854?
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Wally, I have been trying to trace the history and would like your help. I have had the RLC search for the chassis number O854 1352 with no luck. But there seem to be a bit of an anomaly on the old style log book. Now the chassis number 1344 is very neatly written in the correct place on the logbook. But there is a note on the left hand page stating the chassis number as 1352. Now unfortunately the chassis number is not visible as there is a mounting brakes for the crane over it. The chassis does have this on it. Now the first coat of paint on the crane is clearly Olive Drab, which i think would date it from 1944 or there about. Could the chassis number have been changed or recorded incorrectly? I guess the only real way to tell would be to cut the plate that covers the number off, But if the chassis number on the chassis is not what on the log book then that could open a can of worms. I only really want to try and find the history out.
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Thanks for that advice, that was exactly what I was looking for. Its not too far off what i had been doing already.
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I have been doing various little jobs on the crane since i last posted, Hoovering all the ****e out of the crane, rebuilt the seat in the crane, sorted the crane engine air filter out and lots of other little jobs. Today i spent 6 hours welding and grinding a small area of the chassis that had rusted/wasted quite badly. Only manager a patch about 5" long, but pleased with the results.
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In a few places, the chassis on my AEC O854 Coles Crane is heavily rusted/wasted. I have decided that as there are not too many spare chassis about, my only real option is to build the wasted areas up with weld. I am not too worried about this as the Crane has a massive sub frame and there is not too much stress on the chassis where I am welding it. What are the 'forums' views on this? also what are peoples thought on cutting bit out of the chassis and welding replacement sections in. This is not something I intend to do, i just want to know peoples views. Cheers Dan
