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Yes but compare it with: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/Ram01.jpg[/img] Somewhere I have a full frontal of it but not found it so far.

Well no, Mk 2 was solely for IS duties in NI. But you are right there is equipment in there that needs cooling (& ventilating).

There is in this photo, but there's something different about it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/Oddpig02.jpg[/img]

I know what you mean, its just that putting that silly Mk 1 canvas on the back does make it look odd as it is a Mk2. I have seen this vehicle a couple of times before & took pics because, despite the owner additions, has a unique underlying history. But to see it like this, umh shall we say embarrassing - worse is to come. As this was exported a few years ago I feel I can speak fairly freely about it now. (In fairness to the last UK owner, he was not responsible for all the nonsense fitted to it & was sold it in good faith) The canvas on Mk 1 provided an insulating layer of air over the armour, being supported on a rail around the roof edge. Obviously this was for use it hot climates. N.Ireland is not not generally in a tropical climate. But besides serving no purpose it would be at risk to catching fire in riots, so often you see owners put a camo net on their Mk2 which again is a fire risk & a camo net serves no purpose driving around the streets of Belfast & Londonderry! I'll post a side view in a moment, so you can see a total now of 4 extractor fans, why so many

Well no takers. Clues, it has 4 extractor fans & something is missing at the front. Why?

225Mhz - 399.5Mhz 3500 channels at 50Khz spacing Tx 2watts Range ground to ground 8km Ground to aircraft 20km at 30m high 40km at 150m high 80km at 1500m high 160km at 6500m high 24 volts Rx 220 mA Tx 1.2 A The User Handbook is Army Code No. 61351 Parts Cat is Army Code No. 61736 I don't have any of the above, but I do have the EMERs which are 1.5 in thick of A4 double sided. Please! Do not ask me to photocoy it all as it would be expensive & take me all day. But if there is the odd bit of detail or odd page you need I can scan. G4MBS

Yes I'll go along with that. My one was too tall & disjointed needed some integration of the bits which you have done. The background needs a lighter green perhaps. Now for the contoversial bit. How green ie What green? I would favour BSC 224 Deep Bronze Green, which of course signifies British 1950s-60s. For a later period others might prefer NATO IRR Green. Or should it be OD but which one? But I suppose when you look at online colour charts never really look like the colour they are meant to represent & then it all depends on the settings on the monitor, mine is adjust so everything looks DBG, no not really :-D BTW the spanners are military, courtesy of RAC Training Manual.

I thought a mil pattern wheel was best as the MVT have used the gear wheel already. Trouble is as I look at my crossed spanners it looks as if I'm suggesting you might loose your spanners if you don't use them. Although goodness knows I use my spanners & still manage to lose them :cry:

Jack its terribley difficult to choose something that has not been used before & is not overtly era related or guns. Two vague ideas: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/Wheel04.jpg[/img] Signifying moving forward & pulling together, the tyre is a military pattern, but I'm afraid could be offensive to owners of tracked vehicle, although every track is moved by a wheel of some sort! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v684/fv1620/Wheel01X.jpg[/img] This is a sort death or glory parody preserve it or it won't be there in the future sort of thing. Spanners signifying we do work on the vehicles not just swan around in them looking for totty The text is rather amateurishly placed & needs to be a stencil font but thats not on my software.

Well it ain't a FV1612! It is a Mk 2 Pig , it should not have a jerrycan holder nor should it have the canvas on the roof from a Mk1 Pig. As far as its legitimate history goes it is extremely rare, in fact it is unique. Any takers?

You haven't had a landside of responses so hope this might help a bit. I think TXN is the date of a transaction, such as delivery or acceptance of a vehicle. I think VBP means Vehicle Book Processed. Meaning the details of Army Book 562 were entered onto database. There would probably be ADPCON DATE often this is a few days after receiving the vehicle . (ADP = Automated Data Processing). Possibly VBT means Vehicle Book Transfered with the date. The AB562 is more than just a registration document it has apart from serial numbers, asset codes, key numbers & quantities, the reliability classification, servicing history, workshop repairs, engine & gearbox change histories, EMER mods etc The ADP at the time was VESPER (Vehicles, Equipment, Spares, Provision, Economics, Repair). But in 1983 SALOME was introduced (System for Accounting & On-Line Management of Equipment). Vehicle depots were equipped with ME29 computers with the main frame at Bicester. Further changes took place in 2005 with the introduction of JAMES (Joint Asset Management & Engineering Solution). JAMES acts to: Store equipment documents, details of use, servicing, inspections, faults etc Allocate equipment daily & future commitments Forecast inspection & servicing requirements Allow tracking of equipment & where it is needed Hold records of driving & specialist qualifications. That was JAMES 1, then this year was set to introduce JAMES 2 which added: RN & RAF vehicles Deployable system into the field Engineering function to manage repairs & mods Linking with other systems, including supply chain. I know this is the Army system & yours is a RAF Rover, but the Army assumed the responsibility of Single Service Management of MT on 1st January 1976. Sorry got carried away a bit :roll:

Its on page 10 of this: http://www.hmvf.co.uk/pdf/Tabby03.pdf

No mention of it in that role. There is one other page in that volume that tells a slightly diffrent story to that given in wikipedia. It describes Mountbattern shattering ordinary ice, but to no effect when shooting at the Pykrete. The Churchill account gives a bit more detail. Two 3ft high blocks of ice were brought in to the meeting Chiefs of Staff. One block just ice, the other Pykrete. A large axe was brought in & General Arnold was voted as the strongest man present. With one blow the normal ice was shattered when he swung the axe on the Pykrete, he cried out in pain as the axe had little effect. Mountbatten then fired his revolver at the Pykrete which caused the bullet to ricochet narrowly missing Marshall Portal Chief of Air Staff.

When I get these sort of messages I go along with it but reply in borat, that scares em off pretty quick :evil:

Chris There was no specific mount, the diagram shows it being screwed straight onto the turret. So presumably there is no socket on yours & therefore no wiring. The wiring between units is quite straight forward if you wanted to patch something up I can give you the connections. I can't see on your control box, is it push buttons or the later mod with toggle switches? The alarm unit had a vibrating buzzer, this became obsolete, so they had to fit a seperate buzzer & vibrator, this would be felt as the unit was worn by attaching "a flexible ballata strap" whatever that is. After the buzzer mod, there was aother mod as an earth wire had been omitted on the first mod! Also there was an error with 2 wires being transposed! The EMERs give a lot of testing & faultfinding including components & PCB layout, voltage & oscilliscope readings. It does say it was specific to Chieftain, which is why I was so delighted to see it on a Ferret. The trouble is I cannot see where I saw it. The article was written 5 years ago & in the original Windscreen articles I would usually put a list of references to give authority to what was written & a source for others to find more info. But one can't put everything, so looking back I am stumped for the moment. Two thoughts that it is on some GW1 video footage or it was in a rather crudely produced resume of our weapons, Iraqs weapons, sandflies etc done by the Joint Intelligence unit although not too inspiring as some pages were printed upside down! But I don't think I have that manual anymore. But I am 100% certain that at least one Ferret was so equipped, but it would be nice to know the evidence which escapes me at the moment I'm afraid.

Richard I. I was teasing a bit when I said it was pre-war, it is, but is pre-WW1. This is the Field Service Filter-Tank which was in service in 1908. But in 1909 a very similar item appeared the Cart Water Tank MkII & MkII* as it looks identical I think the Field Service Filter-Tank became renamed as the Cart Water Tank MkI A serious omission was that nobody thought to put a drain plug at the bottom of the tank for cleaning so an "EMER" was raised for that. The CWT seemed to get displaced in the 1920s-30s with Regimental Water Cart that then evolved into a thing with tyres for MT use the Water Tank Trailer. I think that was what we were corresponding about. Yes you are thinking about the Metafilter. Although all my vehicles are PWW2, I have a fascination for the mundane, but important aspects of military life in the last 100 years such as water, sanitation, stores & supplies but when you go to places that cover this area of history its all about guns & uniforms & I find that a turn off whatever the era :-(

In Churchill's The Second World War Volume V there is nearly a whole page devoted to it. Seems to be early 1942 & follows on from Mulberry discussions. The floating airfield would provide refuelling for aircraft during Overlord. It was expected to have a displacement of a million tons, self-propelled at slow speed, own air defence, workshops & a refrigeration plant to preserve its own existence. Although as the ice melted it formed a furry outer covering from the pulp that acted as an insulator that slowed down its melting. Much work was done on this idea particularly in Canada, but for "various reasons" it never had any success. So surprisingly I do have wartime books :wink:

Fascinating stuff & generally wikipedia is very accurate. Interestingly when pursuing references through wikipedia in relation to British anti-tank guided weapons of various sorts I can see data that I have unearthed that I have published & has not been published elsewhere. So it is flattering to see info that I have researched quoted by them. I a not complaining the idea of publishing & putting articles on the web is that info is accurately recorded in history. So many times I pick up a book & test its authority by looking up & seeing what is said about a subject I know in some detail & so often it wrong, then it gets perpetuated in another book. If the book fails that basic test, I don't buy it, as how can I trust other info that I know nothing about?

Chris the installation is covered in EMER TELECOMMUNICATIONS B460 - B469 which is fairly extensive. Do you want to know how to connect it? Yes it was designed for Chieftain. I have got another set of EMERS listing it in B432 which seems a section on seismic alarms but EMER TELS was terribly abused in that there were not enough sections & a bit like RN vehicle number plates the numbers got reused & some sections don't fit in with EMERs compiled/updated at different bases at different times. As for fitting on Ferret somewhere I have a pic of one fitted in GW1 I'll look out for.

Absolutely right! Have to call you Richard the first :-D But what is its proper name? What year is it? Clue prewar. (and it isn't in the Windscreen article, as I found this after I had written it. But it will be in the updated version going on site later)

Interesting thought but no.

Nope

Nope

Neil, it's IE & came preloaded on this XP PC that I've had for 18 months. Normally I can play most things ranging from those SS re-enactors, to Borat & his chum Gorky Borchek. BTW I do find our site in the last hour is very slow or pages refuse to open, other sites open ok, perhaps its busy tonight?

Hmmm well sort of yes.