58 pattern webbing

[Tony B]

Anyone got a picture of the 58 layout please?

[Yorkie370]

"A Chemical Agent is a chemical substance intended for use in military operations to kill, injure or seriously incapacitate Man through its physiological effects. Excluded from these are smoke, flame, riot-control agents and chemical insecticides."

 

One of very few bits from my military training that has stuck with me all these years.

[ferretfixer]

"A Chemical Agent is a chemical substance intended for use in military operations to kill, injure or seriously incapacitate Man through its physiological effects. Excluded from these are smoke, flame, riot-control agents and chemical insecticides."

 

One of very few bits from my military training that has stuck with me all these years.

 

 

Very usefull when your in Boots the chemist!................:rofl:

[ferretfixer]

Anything that came out of the cook house??? :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 

 

Does' that include the cooks?

 

I knew a Brave man who wiped out an entire Battalion single handed.

He was a cook................................Poisoned everyone to a man!! :-D

 

Heard in camp in the cookhouse when I was attached to the Paras.

A disgruntled 'customer' at the hotplate after consultation with a 'chef'.

He muttered something unsavory under his breath.

The 'chef' imediately lept in with an 'Enquirey'.

'Who called the cook a Bas**rd'!?

The reply came back from another lad, 'Who called the Bas**rd a cook'??

Classic Service Humour! :rofl:

[Redcap]

Whilst you lot are off down memory lane without a sat -nav. The latest boot sale find by Number One son, is Detector Kit Chemical Agent residual Vapour No1 Mk 1 (nerve and Mustard Agents) NSN 6665-99-961-6082 . Any iinfo on it? Especially any nastys may be in it.Has all teh bottles, with liquid in and the the tickets.

 

Blimey - Iremember the RVD, and the masses (well, a fair few anyhow) of puffer bottles that went with it :evil:

 

IIRC, the RVD enzyme kit (those puffer bottles) had shelf lifes. They weren't in and of themselves danerous, but they could be pretty foul and insidious on the nasal passages (they stunk to high heaven if I recall right). Personally, I wouldn't even open them myself - I don't remember/know enough about the damn things to render good advice.

 

Be very careful, might be a good idea to seek specialist hazmat advice on that one, mate.

 

CANCEL the above - found something -

"Capsules, Residual Vapour Detector (RVD)"

http://www.dstan.mod.uk/data/68/195/00000200.pdf

 

RIGHT CLICK and save as, it's a PDF file.

Edited June 21, 2009 by Redcap

[Tony B]

Intend to keep all the stuff well sealed Roger! :shake:

[Redcap]

Wise move, mate

[AlienFTM]

Never had a problem with the plastic lenses, and they didnt steam up as bad as the S6 glass eyepieces. The S10 also had a speech module built into the opposite side from the cannister, for attaching a radio microphone.

Pretty well sorted out bits of kit, a big improvement on the S6.

 

Clansman provided a clip-on mike that fitted onto the front of the S6 over the breathe-out hole. ISTR the other end plugged into a DIN socket in the breastplate. But they were scarce as rocking-horse droppings. Being Regimental Signals Storeman I was never without and people never ceased to be amazed how clearly they could hear me whilst at NBC Red, even after I had returned to the turret.

[AlienFTM]

Neil, DS cannot be two places at once :evil:

 

I carried two canisters in my haversack; one, fitted to the resi "just in case", was the regular can. The other was the summer weight job, stowed properly, and would be swapped over the moment DS were out of sight. Worked every time

 

Both cans were red-tape marked, and of the METAL type, not the plastic crap that came later. Plastic ones were nigh-on impossible to summerweight, of course. Probably why they introduced them (some former DS on the company payroll, no doubt, the sneaky blighter):argh:

 

To those who don't know, exercise use only resi cans were meant to be marked with red tape around the casing, to show that they were merely for defence against CS and smoke, and were not under any circumstances, to be used to defend against actual NBC situations.

 

The idea was that Company/Squadron/whatever stores would hold sufficient stock to supply each squaddie/sqaddess with two thick polythene-wrapped and sealed "in-date" (resi cans have a shelf life) "warshot" cans, and once in the fight, would be resupplied with cans as required through the supply chain.

 

Well.... that was the idea, anyhow... thankfully it never came to the test

 

None of it was like that in my day. Between 1975 and 1989 I had ONE canister. It was a service canister. If the Commies had gome over the IGB we in the recce screen (we were the FLOT, the Forward Leading-edge of Own Troops, way out in front of the FEBA, Forward Edge of the Battle Area) expected in our first replen to get issued all new gas kit.

 

All the REMFs might have had training kit: our Mean Time To Slaughter by Commies wasn't long enough for training kit.

[AlienFTM]

Whilst you lot are off down memory lane without a sat -nav. The latest boot sale find by Number One son, is Detector Kit Chemical Agent residual Vapour No1 Mk 1 (nerve and Mustard Agents) NSN 6665-99-961-6082 . Any iinfo on it? Especially any nastys may be in it.Has all teh bottles, with liquid in and the the tickets.

I wouldn't expect it to contain any nasties if it was last used before (IIRC) 1992. Our services have not used real nasties for a long, long time. CS was perfectly good enough fas a training aid. Unless like me it had little or no effect, you couldn't pretend you hadn't suffered the effects of CS.

 

After the end of the Cold War, the Poles couldn't invite the British Army onto its training areas quickly enough.

 

A 15/19H battle group was the first unit to train in Poland, and they became Light Dragoons end of 92.

 

The battle group were shocked by some of the training area standing orders including:

 

No use of nerve agent within (IIRC) 3km of a village.

 

48 hours notice required before the use of persistent nerve agent.

[AlienFTM]

The kit shouldn't contain anything nasty. It used reagents and bits of coated paper for the detection of chemical agents. Replaced by hand-held hoover-like device called CAM.

 

For a bonus point, recite the definition of "Chemical Agents."

 

Usual disclaimers apply. Seek medical advice if swallowed. Other ex-Mil chemical warfare equipment is available.

 

General Sir John Hackett released his what-if The Third World War about 1978 when we were stationed in Paderborn. The book described how Soviet forces could not break into Paderborn and a serious bulge developed.

 

This evoked discussion among the troops. One friend suggested it was down to our use of biological agents. This led to quizzical looks: we don't use biologicals.

 

His response: "Have you met some of the women in the City Club?"