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i reckon they put all the diy armour on to defeat shaped charge weapons as track links and sandbags and timber wouldn't have any effect on a kinetic round but it could stop a shape charge from penetrating or even a magnetic mine from sticking. it's just my opinion but it seems to make sense. what do you lot think ? it would be nice to get a definitive answer to something that's puzzled me for a while.

 

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i reckon they put all the diy armour on to defeat shaped charge weapons as track links and sandbags and timber wouldn't have any effect on a kinetic round but it could stop a shape charge from penetrating or even a magnetic mine from sticking. it's just my opinion but it seems to make sense. what do you lot think ? it would be nice to get a definitive answer to something that's puzzled me for a while.

 

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I also wonder if concrete, tracks as extra armour or applique steel plates actually saved Shermans?

Surely there should be photo's or reports if it worked?

 

The tracks on the sides to counteract shaped charges does sound like a good plan at least.

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How about this one then:

 

A member of the Philippine Coast Guard inspects the wreckage of a U.S. tank that was recovered in 2009 in the muddy waters of Manila Bay. Authorities said the tank, which appeared to be an M4 Sherman minus its turret, was accidentally discovered underwater by a dredging company near the mouth of the Pasig River

 

 

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As others have said .....I can't imagine extra track links or whatever would have stopped an '88' but.... by the latter stages of the European fighting the danger of an '88' either in an opposing tank or as an independent antitank gun was very well recognised ??..... I thought the 'general plan' by late 1944 was to leave 'tank on tank' action , wherever possible , to the 'specialist units' equipped with M10s and Fireflys ??...(unless an Allied Tank was taken by surprise of course in which case the poor crew had no choice but to get 'stuck in' and do their best :( )

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....I'm guessing (by that stage of the war ) that an awful lot more 'hand held' things such as Panzerfausts were being encountered?....and perhaps the sandbags / railway sleepers / track links etc would have been effective against low velocity 'blast' type weapons such as these ??

PS: the Sherman having 'track guards' welded on seems sensible too...as the Allies came up against more and more fanatically entrenched Germans I'd guess having the tracks blown off your tank by a concealed Infrantryman using whatever device came to hand was a real possibility?...so those plates would at least protect a fair portion of your tracks??

It's always struck me that no matter how thick or well sloped your armour is on a tank , your most vulnerable and easiest damaged point... is always the tracks.... and once a track is blown off your tank is scuppered and can't function half as effectively even if the main armament is still functioning .........

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That's wading trunking. Not armour but quite flimsy sheet metal, note the rather undefined shape of the right hand lower part. There would be an extension piece clipped on the top raising it to turret hight and another similar extension on the air intake just behind the turret but these would have been ditched on landing so as not to get in the way of the gun when traversing the turret. 40 gallons of presumably fuel on the rear deck totaly unprotected is a nice touch which suggests that they wern't feeling very threatened.

 

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Why was the engine coming out Adrian?

 

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Adrian, you mentioned at A&E that one unit was running noticably hotter than the other during the days driving.... is it further investigation of that issue?

 

The principal reason for taking the engine pack out was to replace one of the vibration dampers on the end of one of the crankshafts that had started to fall to bits , and the only reason we checked it was that i had been invited to take the M10 to Belguim to a WW2 show in Sept and we were giving it a good looking over before leaving, so when we found the vibration damper was failing we took the M4 High speed instead , and had a fantastic weekend away .

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