Adrian Barrell Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I think I can see a hole in the radiator...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienFTM Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Any good pyrotechnic man can make you an electrically fired smoke pot. No license required to own or use. I have the drawing for the bracket Maurice if you mean the one on the turret, I also have some repro. bomb throwers like mine. On Ex Bugle Call in 1976 (HQ UKLF wanted to film a LOT of tanks on the move to represent a Soviet formation) we found modifications made to our Scorpions so that when an umpire called out a callsign destroyed, the driver hit the four-way flashers and stopped. Pyro wired up to the indicators and WOOF it disappeared in a cloud of smoke. As one of three vehicles to successfully navigate the minefield (there were training AT mines which set off smoke if we found them), we had great fun removing the unexploded pyro. I have a vision of Endex at the top of a hill surrounded by Milan or whatever AT teams etc in some sort of inferno as the Plain burned from all the pyro. The point of the film was to try and make the Commies believe that our killing zones would stop them dead within miles of the IGB. It may have fooled them but it never fooled me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazz Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Alien, I remember the exercise well, Bazz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 is there anybody who knows how the box for 5 2"smoke bombs should look like ? also the box for 3 grenades for on the heather duct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Maurice, it's not 5 smoke bombs but box no.5, smoke bombs which according to the stowage sketch holds 15 bombs. I'll see if I have any patterns here, I'm making Firefly stowage at the moment. The grenade box may be a half size version of the standard box for 6 grenades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted February 6, 2009 Author Share Posted February 6, 2009 Adrian, As you are working on the Wheatcroft Firefly turret ATM do you know if they have the corrisponding hull? Or are they going to transform a standard M4 / M4A4 hull... in due time. If you are not at liberty to say; no problem. Which brings the question: I can understand secrecy in the vintage sports car racing circuit (because they cheat, and don't want to be found out - that IS a fact by the way), but in HMVs why:??? it's not as if you can get one over on a fellow owner... I only ask as some posters make the point along the following lines: 'saw xyz's project the other day, but can't say anymore'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Forget that, I'm talking out of my a**e....:red: However, closer inspection of your chart and the stowage lists shows that it reads 15 X 2" Smoke Bombs. I would guess the layout is 3x5 looking at the sketch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Adrian,As you are working on the Wheatcroft Firefly turret ATM do you know if they have the corrisponding hull? Or are they going to transform a standard M4 / M4A4 hull... in due time. If you are not at liberty to say; no problem. Which brings the question: I can understand secrecy in the vintage sports car racing circuit (because they cheat, and don't want to be found out - that IS a fact by the way), but in HMVs why:??? it's not as if you can get one over on a fellow owner... I only ask as some posters make the point along the following lines: 'saw xyz's project the other day, but can't say anymore'. Yes, they do have the complete vehicle, Sherman Vc, we are making internals for that at the moment too. The Wheatcroft collection is a private collection and many aquisitions take years of patient work and long winded deals to bring off. Keeping things under your hat becomes the norm. I don't think there is any secrecy as such. The collection is also not in any way set up to allow visitors. This is as much from a practical side as any other. If there is something specific you wish to know or see, I'm happy to ask for you. I wouldn't post pics of anything without permission myself, it's a matter of courtesy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 You are right Adrian , do you need anny dimensions for the right side sponson bins? or the floor ammo bins ? if yes I can send them , I am just still looking for front and top cover patterns for battery box , and how to make new round ammo holders for in bin behind driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted February 6, 2009 Share Posted February 6, 2009 Maurice, at the moment I am only making the ammo bins starting with the front one. I have quite good patterns for these. I have also found the correct catch for these and the rear and turret bins. I have ordered 30, do you still need any? Adrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Yes please , But I haven`t counted how many go on the interior bins .(stil,haven`t asked Joop if he needs catches as wel) What kind of front bin are you making ? there were two models , one with the flaps mounted on rods from front to rear , or from side to side. They are all possible to make(time consuming) made out of plate and angle iron . Did you also notice that the front bin can be dismantled on the front and rear so you can work on the brake band in front of it ? in several books they mention that on a firefly you can`t reach brake band , so this is not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 It is the type with the diamond shaped dividers mounted on rods. The bin has a gap in the front face to allow for brake adjustment, not a modification, it was made like that. There is also a cut out in the inner side, the armour plated side, to allow for the gearbox oil filler. This is why a 15 round box only holds 14 rounds! As for the catches, there is at least 5 on the inside bins, I still have to check on the bin behind the driver, it has 3 I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Yes , I have the same box ,in the stowage diagram you can see one model in the IC and the other in the VC , but I noticed on the ranges that either type was used in the IC and VC . The Ammo bin behind the driver has a slide for 2 cal. 30 Ammo boxes , and one for 2 cal. 50 WW1 boxes ? wy 100 rounds there and these rare 50 rounds boxes in the rear right corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 Gents, Any more news on the Argentinean Firefly that was to be 'available soon' from Joop. Is it going to be one of one or one of a small number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Gents,Any more news on the Argentinean Firefly that was to be 'available soon' from Joop. Is it going to be one of one or one of a small number? Alastair, Why don´t you give Joop Staman a call on +31 548-61 04 32. He speaks English perfectly. - Hanno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajmac Posted February 9, 2009 Author Share Posted February 9, 2009 Thanks Hanno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Yes , I have the same box ,in the stowage diagram you can see one model in the IC and the other in the VC , but I noticed on the ranges that either type was used in the IC and VC . The Ammo bin behind the driver has a slide for 2 cal. 30 Ammo boxes , and one for 2 cal. 50 WW1 boxes ? wy 100 rounds there and these rare 50 rounds boxes in the rear right corner. The .50 cal boxes that go there are the 'box, ammunition, M17' and not the 100 rd. box that goes on the mount. The square 50 rd box goes on the mount and I think the 100 rd boxes were just used to store .50 cal ammo to be dispensed into the 50 rd boxes as needed. A standard Sherman has some of each too. Mine has 6 of the 50 rd and 3 of the M17 type. I have one of the 50 rd type, very hard to find! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 The other week there was one 50 rond box for sale , but was 70 € , I need a buch of them for my M4A4 and M4 , so was thinking of making a form to press copy pannels and make them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Good idea, I'd have some. I can do the same but they are quite involved, heavy material and a deep pressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcspool Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 (edited) Is this one of the type of boxes you guys are talking about? From http://www.bmgparts.com/mount.html: D68375 Chest, Ammo, .50 cal., TANK. Sherman Tank .50 caliber Ammo Chest. US GI, NOS Condition. $49.95, US, Plus Shipping Edited February 9, 2009 by mcspool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 That's the one! I've looked at that site before too..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian Barrell Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 I've just checked with them, they're not really wanting to export but would exchange with an item they sell and are looking for. However, they want two $200 items for every can....... I think I'll look closer to home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 The pressing of the x is no problem , I can Use a 100 ton press , what worries me is the bottom to curl round on to the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 here a picture of the orriginal T number on mine , the is a black number as well , and Link 1 of1 stencilling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 These pictures are of a wreck so you can see how full the floor was with ammo bins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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