ArtistsRifles Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 OK - IMBSB - does any know know of any restriction on preserved MV's using convoy flags when moving in a convoy on the public highway? Was talking about this yesterday and it was thought there may be some kind of law that restricts/prohibits it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Richard Farrant Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 OK - IMBSB - does any know know of any restriction on preserved MV's using convoy flags when moving in a convoy on the public highway? Was talking about this yesterday and it was thought there may be some kind of law that restricts/prohibits it??? Most drivers on the road would not have a clue what the different flags meant. Don't forget the correct vehicle spacing in the packets too, for safety. That way you could not be seen as causing a hazard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Marmite!! Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Probably but why go digging for laws.. make someone aware of one & there will be someone ready to use it against you :coffee: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ArtistsRifles Posted January 18, 2009 Author Share Posted January 18, 2009 Just curious Lee - can't for the life of me see why any authority would be throwing a hissy fit about some coloured material fixed to old vehicles - but then again after the last years experiences with that lot of <censoreds> in DVLA and VOSA nothing would surprise me anymore!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Bodge Deep Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 Probably but why go digging for laws.. make someone aware of one & there will be someone ready to use it against you :coffee: Well, quite! I run with my 5x3 chequered "Follow Me" flag flying as it makes the truck even more conspicuous on the open road (not that you'd imagine a black and white chequered dodge could be missed)... Dunno if its allowed or not but i'd rather flap a flag than have some myopic dimwit ram his micra into the back of me because "he didn't see me" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Adam Elsdon Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Cant see what possible civilian law you would be breaking, flags in the highway code went out when they done away with someone walking in front of a vehicle with a red flag. If you can fly an array of football flags from your vehicle, military convoy id flags shouldnt present a problem, although if you are not sure, just dont use them on the road if you are bothered, its not as if they are performing the same function as a large military convoy with multiple packets of vehicles, with an LAD recovery service and military police etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Willyslancs Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 You must point your truck out Bodge , it does blend in lol.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Just curious Lee - can't for the life of me see why any authority would be throwing a hissy fit about some coloured material fixed to old vehicles - but then again after the last years experiences with that lot of <censoreds> in DVLA and VOSA nothing would surprise me anymore!!! If someone missed breckfast they'll find a reason. 'Oh do you reliase Sir, you could hit a low flying bird wuth that, or the best one I know'You may not drive a bus wearing a high visibility jacket! This may startle another road user and cause an acident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Markheliops Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 The only possible problem could be if your flag hindered other road users. i.e If you passed a cyclist and your flag smacked him in the face or got trapped in his wheels. Or if your flag obstructed your vision to some degree to effect your driving. A normal sized flag would cause no problems what so ever. Common sense should be used. Markheliops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 AlienFTM Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 If someone missed breckfast they'll find a reason. 'Oh do you reliase Sir, you could hit a low flying bird wuth that, or the best one I know'You may not drive a bus wearing a high visibility jacket! This may startle another road user and cause an acident. I have never seen a bus wearing a high visibility jacket. It would startle me if I did. As for driving it, I hope the jacket doesn't obscure the doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ArtistsRifles Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 Veering off-topic a bit here - ferried the daughter Mk1 back to Uni through London late last night. One of those god-awful bendy buses was in front of us - it signaled to turn left at a set of traffic lights so we pulled out to pass it - and the bloody thing turned right instead. :argh: Luckily the brakes on a Citroen C1 work rather well!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 As for Alien, whys every body keep picking on ME? :n00b: AR bendy buses more or less go where they *** like anyway! At least they don't burst into flames anymore. Obnoxious things, fine if your driving up a great wide boulevard, just don't ask them to turn or worse still go backwards. Back on track, if the thing will bend, flags are supposed to be a killer on fuel. someone (And they must have had very little to do) worked out that two small football flags, as seen on cars a few years back took 4 mpg off the average car, so stick one on some of ours and lose about 25% of your mpg. :shake: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ArtistsRifles Posted January 19, 2009 Author Share Posted January 19, 2009 As for Alien, whys every body keep picking on ME? :n00b: AR bendy buses more or less go where they *** like anyway! At least they don't burst into flames anymore. Obnoxious things, fine if your driving up a great wide boulevard, just don't ask them to turn or worse still go backwards. Back on track, if the thing will bend, flags are supposed to be a killer on fuel. someone (And they must have had very little to do) worked out that two small football flags, as seen on cars a few years back took 4 mpg off the average car, so stick one on some of ours and lose about 25% of your mpg. :shake: Can't see it having much affect on a Stolly Tony - they are about as aerodynamic as a house brick @ 2.5mpg..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 If the numbers add up then, put up more flags and start sailing!:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Simon Daymond Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 not having a clue about convoy flags, would someone care to explain the basics? i.e colours and which vehicles carry them? Also in a convoy does it matter which vehicles go where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Snapper Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 (edited) Right then. Can some kind soul(s) create a flag locker for us - via this thread - with a run down of what is what? Doesn't have to be lengthy or verbose llike my twaddle. Just collating info first of all. Suitable snaps welcome too. simpleton barnes thinking along the lines of: Green = whatever blue = whatever etc At some point "we" should be able to find suitable graphics (hopefully) and flowery prose can be added as required by a certain person if needs be.:cool2: MB HMVF Social Services Edited January 23, 2009 by Snapper yadda yadda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ArtistsRifles Posted January 23, 2009 Author Share Posted January 23, 2009 IIRC -its: Blue - Lead vehicle in a convoy Green - last vehicle in a convoy Yellow - broken down and awaiting REME assistance/recovery Red - Explosive or highly flammable load Again IIRC for a convoy split into packets lead vehicle on the first packet has 2 flags as does the tail vehicle of the last packet all others have one(although we used to put a Red fore and aft on our vehciles with "interesting" loads) Can anyone - Alien or Bazz for example confirm this??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Snapper Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Quality...keep 'em coming. Pink = Jack on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Dave C Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 Black fishnet flag = Turret Totty being carried by Heliops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 David Ives Posted January 23, 2009 Share Posted January 23, 2009 correct as to position of flags on convoys neil 10 out of 10 will be using flags on the plains this year as will be two packets due to numbers already booked so if you havnt got your name down yet sign up soon link to canadian flags where they have one for the oc http://flagspot.net/flags/ca%5Econvy.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 AlienFTM Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 IIRC -its: Blue - Lead vehicle in a convoy Green - last vehicle in a convoy Yellow - broken down and awaiting REME assistance/recovery Red - Explosive or highly flammable load Again IIRC for a convoy split into packets lead vehicle on the first packet has 2 flags as does the tail vehicle of the last packet all others have one(although we used to put a Red fore and aft on our vehciles with "interesting" loads) Can anyone - Alien or Bazz for example confirm this??? That's fine in the context. Convoys to be broken up into packets of between five and eight vehicles. REME vehicles (where present) at the back to collect the deaders as they come to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ArtistsRifles Posted January 28, 2009 Author Share Posted January 28, 2009 That's fine in the context. Convoys to be broken up into packets of between five and eight vehicles. REME vehicles (where present) at the back to collect the deaders as they come to them. The 5 to 8 vehicles was good in theory. I do have memories of - I think - 1973 with a convoy of 25 Militant Mk 1s running down from Stirling Castle to Tidworth escorted by two REME Scammells. And for the last 100 miles both Scammells were hooked to the back of the last two Militants via rigid bar!! REME guys never lived that down!! Reason I remember that trip was because I had to it without a co-driver and it was non-stop apart from fuel stops. :shake: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Simon Daymond Posted January 29, 2009 Share Posted January 29, 2009 I bet you made the fuel stops drag out a bit, and I was worrying about driving the militant for a couple of hours! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ArtistsRifles Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share Posted January 30, 2009 I bet you made the fuel stops drag out a bit, and I was worrying about driving the militant for a couple of hours! Not that long - once the vehicle was fuelled and you'd pulled off the pumps there was a Landie parked up with a dixie of hot tea (no Noggys back then) and biccys - you took your own mug off the 58 pattern bottle, scooped out the tea, grabbed a couple of biscuits and returned to the vehicle. Lead vehicle got maybe 40+ minutes, tail end charlies got maybe 5 mins. Total journey time was around 30 hours. Worst thing for the guys from my troop was that we were ferrrying the GS version - our Troop vehicles were 6x4 tipper variants with hand throttles and we had a habit of setting the hand throttle and - on long straight roads - sliding the seat back and using the boots to steer with for short periods to stretch the muscles if we had some one in the #2 seat. GS never had the hand throttle so we were hunched over the wheel all the way... Still good fun though!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Adam Elsdon Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 There is another convoy flag, which is a black/white flag split in half diagonally which denotes convoy commander. I have a full set somewhere, will get a pic on here sometime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Rangie Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 How long has the convoy flag system been in use? In the case of the commanders vehicle, would they display the black/white as well as the other colour to denote their position on the convoy? Also, what if you have no pole socket, would you just tie it to your bumper, onto the highest point or round your forehead a-la-Rambo?? Alec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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