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Guest catweazle (Banned Member)
I read some of the judgment and it is all sound. It's just cultural vandalism. These people are just trying to make their lovely little middle class idylls perfect for parking their Range Rovers. They have no sense of history, only status and money.

 

MB

Oy knock the people leave the range rovers out of it,you sound just like the papratzi,no i havnt spelt it wrong.Didnt you forget to call them gas guzzlers.:-D

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Oy knock the people leave the range rovers out of it,you sound just like the papratzi,no i havnt spelt it wrong.Didnt you forget to call them gas guzzlers.:-D

 

Ooooooooooooooooooooooohhh Ouch. Nuffink against Range Rovers my old mate - lovely things, especially the older ones with Marina door handles. Just SOME of the tossers who drive them around. Visit Leigh-On-Sea any Saturday - we play spot the drug dealer - especially the ones with ridiculous wheels. No room for my MUTT when they go cruisin for their lattés :-D

 

MB

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Just because Range Rover owners would think of MUTTS as a trolley! No need to get uppitty. Imagine living in Orpington after that Rav 4 advert!! :argh: (Just mind deep puddles this winter, Especially if there is a Range Rover behind you with room to overtake) The problem is you don't have room the garage for a Dodge.

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You're raving mad, but I like you.

 

Be brave, go by MUTT. Yeah! As said, nought wrong with Range Rovers, I'd have one. My beef is with your nouveau riche, guv'nor. I keep thinking of the way Citizen Smith would deal with them, but the actor probably drives a Chelsea tractor, too. Just me going all socialist like my dear old Dad. He drove a Honda 50. My genuine beef is with the vandals who would demolish our history for their vista. There's too much of it about - ironic considering we are at the time of year when we wear poppies to honour those who gave us the freedom to kill the ozone layer, squirrels, Ladas and other small animals while driving our 4x4s. All power to 4x4 owners...not pillbox vandals of any hue, class or inside leg.

 

MB

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So you'll be dishing out the cuatard creams to make amaends then? I'll bet the house owner didn't expect objections from all over the country. No doubt there will be an appeal but the statment of historic worth and totally contray to the county policy is pretty damming. :-D

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Hurray, they have seen sense and taken note of our objections & refused permission. So for those who supported this, give yourself a pat on the back!

 

If you want to see the reasons then here is the link, its quite lengthy:

http://www.guildford.gov.uk/DLDC_Version_2/acolnetcgi.gov?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeOfficerReport&TheSystemkey=101978

 

well done everyone

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Hurray, they have seen sense and taken note of our objections & refused permission. So for those who supported this, give yourself a pat on the back!

 

If you want to see the reasons then here is the link, its quite lengthy:

http://www.guildford.gov.uk/DLDC_Version_2/acolnetcgi.gov?ACTION=UNWRAP&RIPNAME=Root.PgeOfficerReport&TheSystemkey=101978

 

 

Excellent news, well done Paul for posting it on here and bringing it to everyones attention....

i tried reading the reasons on the link, got about half way down and then slipped into a coma! do you think the person who wrote that actually made sense of it after??

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Its back on the agenda

the owner has been granted leave to appeal to the Secretary of State so we have to object again otherwise the rejection by Guildford Council will be overturned

 

Objections (in writing) must be made by 16th Jan 2009 to:

Planning Inspectorate

Room 3/21

Temple Quay House

2 The Square

Temple Quay

Bristol BS1 6PN

 

quote ref APP/Y3615/E/08/2089360/NWF

 

or via email to:

teamp13@pins.gsi.gov.uk

 

quote the same ref

your email address willl be made public unless you send your objections as a separate document attached to your email

 

or post your objection via the search facility on the PI website:

www.pcs.planningportal.gov.uk/pcsportal/casesearch.asp

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doesn't it state at the bottom of the decision, that applications can be made to English Heritage to have pillboxes classed as 'listed'? Wouldn't that be a better longer term solution? Clearly the individual seeking demolition is just going to keep going at this.

 

Here's how to go about listing http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/nav.1373

 

& Scheduled Monuments http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/nav.1369

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Had a quick read through of some of the literature on the links, listing the building wouldn't automatically mean it was saved, however it would seem that by listing it, at any further planning applications, the building's importance etc would be noted, even if no-one was present to make the case for it, i.e. if the chap wanting to bulldoze it had a planning meeting whilst we were all up to our chins in W&P mud etc.

 

I'd make the application, but don't know enough about it to do proper justice, and making half a job would probably do more harm than good. Surely a collaboration could be submitted?

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PLEASE NOTE: If you made an objection originally, you do NOT have to resend it as the council forward all orginal appeals to the Planning Inspectorate so that they can make their decision.

 

If, however, you have an additional comment or didn't object before then now is the time.

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PLEASE NOTE: If you made an objection originally, you do NOT have to resend it as the council forward all orginal appeals to the Planning Inspectorate so that they can make their decision.

 

If, however, you have an additional comment or didn't object before then now is the time.

 

Thanks for the info, the letter I got from the Council informing me of the referral did not say that

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We are lucky that permission was applied for... quite a few local listed building (Victorian) were refused PP for demolition so the owners simply put the windows through and removed the roof... then 10 years later oh gosh they had to be pulled down for safty reasons!!

One local chap had the oldest remaining wall (originally part of a blacksmiths) in the village, not much but from the 17th Century, it was in the newspapers that he wanted to remove it to make room for his Caravan. All applications were refused...so what did he do... get a JCB and knock it down on a Sunday Afternoon while no one was looking! I think he had a fine, it was all in the local paper, but when you drive past now, no wall and one big caravan :nono:

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Guest catweazle (Banned Member)
Its still at the appeal stage which can take months, so I've sent an email asking for an up date & will post here if any news.

Cheers lets hope it goes our way.:-D

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Its still at the appeal stage which can take months, so I've sent an email asking for an up date & will post here if any news.

I appreciate this is now ancient history but I had reason to remember this thread today and went looking for info

 

sadly "we" lost and it was demolished son after this thread way back in 2009 ... the owners can now "enjoy" their Surrey period property wealth without being reminded of who fought for their freedom so they could amass it

 

http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/local-news/battle-won-pillbox-demolition-4824233

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You know , there are some people at this very min. watching for overnight frost - on lunch break from furiously mixing concrete for foundation preparations for a type 24 , that will double up as a paint / oil / thinners store.

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