les freathy Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I would rather title this Scammell as to me these were Scammell through and through with just a leyland badge placed on the front, most went for export with a few trialed by the British during the 1970/80s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Les, the one in the second photo is badged as a Scammell although the brochure refers to them as Leyland Contractors and some did indeed wear a Leyland badge. They are lightweight Contractors with a 30 ton rear bogie similar to the one used in the Amazon or CR100. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 They were not take up by British Army, but were supplied to Jordan and others. I've often pondered the question why we kept on with 'oversized' tank transporters like Commander when all around us went on to lightweight high-powered commercial 6x6 tractors like MAN and MERC? The only obvious reason is drastically improved stability in soft ground provided by the slightly wider axles, but can anyone provide any practical experience-based reasons as to if and why our units were significantly better performers, e.g. during Gulf campains? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 John Attlee's Scammell Contractor at 2008 Great Dorset Steam Fair Lucky bloke !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les freathy Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 Your right there Andy afraid i have a job to see the lettering that small attached is a better photo showing the Scammell badge and a shot taken by Laurie Wright of the Australian Leyland and typical Aus transporter with Leopard load operated by 9 tpt regt in 1986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les freathy Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 Andy,Mike,Mike,Andy sorry guys prehaps i am waitng for a date with Edna Clouds all this results in trying to get to many items on the computer in one go. My other half always says men cannot multi task and as the years go by i think she may be right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Great pics none the less Les ! Could I ask what your connection is with Scammells as you certainly have a great photo collection ! Please keep em coming ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les freathy Posted August 1, 2008 Author Share Posted August 1, 2008 Hi Andy (got it right this time) No connection at all with Scammell i only paid one visit to the factory in the month the first Commanders were ready for delivery so i can say i saw them come and now of course ive seen them go Jordon i believe for £1.00 each. My collection has amassed form nearly 40 years of collecting material mainly on wheeled vehicles and having a habit of leaving no stone unturned ie i hound any one i find has served in the forces to borrow snapshots, chasing manufacturers though not much left in the UK to follow up and countless establishment visits and of course rallies. There is plenty more to come including other nations heavies now thats a point i observe the Britsh items are split in to type threads is it best do this with other nations or say German, Dutch, Swedish HETS and group that country under one thread to save space on the site cheers :Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 now of course ive seen them go Jordon i believe for £1.00 each. :Les Les, if my information is correct they all had an in depth re-furb before they left.....:argh: To get a larger view of a thread picture, you can either double click on it or copy and paste to 'my pictures' and then zoom in/out. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 John Attlee's Scammell Contractor at 2008 Great Dorset Steam Fair Lucky bloke !!!!! Andy, that is the heavyweight or 240 ton version with huge reduction hubs and 14.00 x 24 tyres. There is a mis-conception that only the crew cabbed ones are 240 tonners; Scammell could provide either cab on either model. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritineye Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Seems like you have a very interesting collection of pictures Les, thanks for sharing them, keep 'em coming, feed the need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 My sentiments exactly Bernard ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 (edited) 12.00 x 20 tyres. The Crew cab John built himself, by moving the back wall backwards. This Contractor was originally day cabbed. More Follows... Edited August 5, 2008 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 Andy, that is the heavyweight or 240 ton version with huge reduction hubs and 14.00 x 24 tyres. There is a mis-conception that only the crew cabbed ones are 240 tonners; Scammell could provide either cab on either model. Mike This Contractor is actually plated at 190 Tons, and was new, as a daycab variant, to Parsons Works, Newcastle Upon Tyne. Contractors were made in 7 basic models, plated at 86300, 101600 111700 122000, 152400 and 182800 Kgs for the Artic Versions and 111,700, 162500 193000 and 244000 Kgs for the Ballast box Tractors. The standard models were 6x4 but 6x6 was offered as an alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 12.00 x 20 tyres. The Crew cab John built himself, by moving the back wall backwards. This Contractor was originally day cabbed. More Follows... Mike, I am almost sure the 16 stud wheels are 24", the lightweight version had 20". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 (edited) Pickering 2008 This is an Original Crew cab, And yes you are right 1200 x 24's Edited August 5, 2008 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 John Attlees baby with different trailer and hauling a Conqueror Armoured Recovery Vehicle pulling alongside Mikes Lovely Antar at Great Dorset Steam Fair 2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6 X 6 Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 A brief vid of J.Attlee's Contractor doing it's stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
croc Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 more from Dorset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Have you any of the Conqueror being unloaded Croc as I did wonder how it was carried out ! :sweat: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antarmike Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 (edited) It takes a couple of hours. Someday when I am bored I will try to remember how to go about it. Find Militant to lift off the ground anchors from on top of swan neck. Start Donkey engine. First jack under the Beam ends, thatsTractor end. lowering bit by bit until amost on the ground. Uncouple the Contractor, and drive out. Take Contractor to other end of trailer and attach Holybones to the nose of Tractor and rear of rear bogey. Jack under back beams to take weight. Struggle for an hour to take out the pins. and pull the back bogey well clear. (steering it by radio remote at same time as backing Contractor. This involves uncoulping the self steering mechanical link arms, so that hydraulic steering can be used. (every time I say jack something, the hoses from the power pack have to be suitably connected, eg to the front end of the trailer to use the inbuilt jacks) (So plenty of plugging/ unplugging of specific hoses throughout this operation) Jack both ends of Trailer as high as you can get them. Inset 12" x12" timbers under tracks. (but not enough blocks to cover full length, so start from Front end of trailer). Lay a row of railway sleepers along the top of these baulks. Later as the tank starts to drive off, carry block from one end to the other for it to run on... Lower trailer a bit at each end until tank tracks are just above the blocks. Unchain the tank, take off marker boards, side lighting etc.. Drop trailer as far as it will go and with luck there will be 1 1/2" clearance between the top of the beams and the belly plates. Drive the tank backwards off trailer, and take it clear. Push back bogey towards Trailer, steering it as you go. (radio remote)( Miss the pins several times and take another hour to work in the pins (and the two big bolts either side, (the ones I forget to tell you we take out earlier!!) Altering beam height on the Jacks several times in the process. Every time I say jack, may involve chasing round to find a suitable bit of packing, (usually it is at the other end under something heavy!). Pins need sledgehammer most of the time. Uncouple Holybones, drive contractor to front, Back under Swan neck, using front jacks to alter height of fifth wheel. Couple up Airlines etc, Hump all the 12" xc 12" timber onto the trailer. Line up rear bogey Hydraulic steering, so mechanical self-steering can be re-connected. Drive round the Arena for half an hour then spend another two and a half hours reversing this process to re-load. Go to the beer tent....... Edited November 7, 2008 by antarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Good description Mike, I was thinking along those lines. Do the tracks have to be chained up to prevent them sagging, and was that trailer ever issued/used by a unit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 I think the trailer was described as ex-Pickfords in the programme if I remember rightly !:-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Interesting photo of a Contractor tank transporter used by Israel on this site ! http://www.roadtransport.com/blogs/big-lorry-blog/2007/11/more-tank-transporter-photogra.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I think the trailer was described as ex-Pickfords in the programme if I remember rightly !:-D I think you may be right Andy, going by Mike's description we would have lost the battle before we had unloaded the first tank:shocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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