paulob1 Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 it just wont go into gear, its either the linkage, the clutch, but it had a new one some time ago so I am told, and it crunches when changing unless you get it just right...so it is a fault... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 (edited) Paul - not being funny but if this is the Eaton Twin Splitter box, you are aware of the clutch brake on this unit? Push the clutch down too far you won't get any gears!! Try pressing the clutch down only just far enough to engage the gears. Once moving you can split without even using the clutch - keep power on while selecting the next split you intend to make, then when you decide to change just ease off the throttle, the drive will slacken and the split will then take place without you even realising it (just a slight clunk) until you take up drive on the throttle again. If you know all this then apologies - just trying to help :cheesy: Edited February 12, 2011 by N.O.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCT(V) Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Paul - not being funny but if this is the Eaton Twin Splitter box, you are a ware of the clutch brake on this unit? Push the clutch down too far you won't get any gears!! Try pressing the clutch down only just far enough to engage the gears. Once moving you can split without even using the clutch - keep power on while selecting the split, then when you decide to change just ease off the throttle, the drive will slacken and the split will then take place without you even realising it until you take up drive on the throttle again. If you know all this then apologies - just trying to help Conversely - if I remember correctly - the original Foden (‘s own) twelve speed epicyclical gear-box, would/might also have had a clutch-stop, which DID require you to press the clutch to the floor (as I understand it), to slow/stop the clutch rotating and so assist when changing up through the gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 (edited) Conversely - if I remember correctly - the original Foden (‘s own) twelve speed epicyclical gear-box, would/might also have had a clutch-stop, which DID require you to press the clutch to the floor (as I understand it), to slow/stop the clutch rotating and so assist when changing up through the gearbox. Not conversely, RCT(V), in fact exactly the same as a twin splitter installation. However the use of a clutch brake is an acquired art (which I have yet to acquire) - but if you push too far down on the clutch and keep it there, it will try to stop the clutch plate (and hence gearbox input) shaft rotating completely and thus you can't get any gears to engage. Best to forget all about the clutch brake until the box is mastered in a slow, steady fashion. Then you can use it to speed the change process up a bit if necessary. The twin splitter is a lovely box to use - once on the move it should be possible to do all the splits and even the main box changes without using the clutch at all, let alone the clutch brake. I had a new demo Foden 8 wheel tipper with a twin splitter for 2 days. After the first 15 minutes it was pretty obvious that there was a serious problem with either the truck or me (exactly as Paul described above ), and a quick phone call to the dealer revealed the existence of a clutch brake - so I then knew it wasn't the truck's fault :blush:. A thoroughly enjoyable 2 days (minus 15 minutes) later I was very sad to see the truck go back :-(. Edited February 12, 2011 by N.O.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Re-reading your post, of course that isn't what you meant - think I need to catch up on some sleep this weekend :-D Please ignore my scribble above. Except for the clutch brake bit. Would you expect to have a clutch brake fitted on a 8 speed range change box? Perhaps it depends on engine is used? If RCT(V) is correct, and the 'clutch brake' clutch was retained from the original Foden gearbox installation, then perhaps this is causing your problems. Would be a cheap one to sort if so :-) I'll have a pint, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 Paul - not being funny but if this is the Eaton Twin Splitter box, you are aware of the clutch brake on this unit? Push the clutch down too far you won't get any gears!! Try pressing the clutch down only just far enough to engage the gears. Once moving you can split without even using the clutch - keep power on while selecting the next split you intend to make, then when you decide to change just ease off the throttle, the drive will slacken and the split will then take place without you even realising it (just a slight clunk) until you take up drive on the throttle again. If you know all this then apologies - just trying to help :cheesy: No I do not know this....sorry maybe it is me, its four over four, sorry am not that clear on these boxes and the terminology...I use four low then push the button and four high,..it is hard to engage every gear.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.O.S. Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 No don't be confused by my meandering post - I suppose you'd call it an '8 speed range change' which is exactly what you said, a 4 over 4. Try depressing the clutch only part way and see if it changes easier. What is it like engaging a gear when stationary? I'm sure the previous owner can advise on clutch brake or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted February 12, 2011 Share Posted February 12, 2011 No don't be confused by my meandering post - I suppose you'd call it an '8 speed range change' which is exactly what you said, a 4 over 4. Try depressing the clutch only part way and see if it changes easier. What is it like engaging a gear when stationary? I'm sure the previous owner can advise on clutch brake or not. no he did not and as far as I know doesnt know of one, will give it a try tomorrow, so basically depress the clutch only part way..until it snicks into gear, well my driver will give it a go I have to wait another 2 weeks before I can drive again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antar Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 no mine now has an eaton 4 over 4...but there is serious problems with it..I want to change, a 9 speed fuller would be ideal I reckon...with pto? what price... PM sent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 thanks john...you may be my saviour... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 (edited) Hi guys i an trying to find out a bit of history about my old foden GS, now beaver tail...anyone know where it came from, I know two owners but have not received much info on its history yet from them,... and on another note anyone know where I can get steel body panels and parts for the old girl...should add it has been about on the scene for a while, mario had it for a while...so I am told...dont know Mario so cant ask him. Edited March 15, 2011 by paulob1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Paul, Mario is Mario Alliperti aka Blobby. He is a long time MV lunatic of the Heavy Brigade. He is a very pleasant gent who let me sit on the roof of that truck way back in 96 or 97 and ride around the arena at Beltring. Tony aka M109a3 on here knows of him Fond memories R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) OKAY COULD DO WITH HIS CONTACT DETAILS SO I CAN TRY TO FIND OUT SOME HISTORY...ideal would be an army registration number... Does anyone know of any Foden specialists, people who would know these trucks...plus anyone who might have a manual for the old girl... Also any old photos of her playing in the past... Edited March 16, 2011 by paulob1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted March 21, 2011 Share Posted March 21, 2011 One thing that always gives you confidence about a truck is that it starts first time every time, this foden does just that, got a man prepped to do the gearbox and then go over all her mechanicals new silicon rubbers for the shocks and new air lines and new anything that looks like it may fail in the next few months..this truck has to be reliable...and will be treated as a commercial truck...she is getting a monster winch which looks like it will pull a house down but is only 8 tons straight line pull, with a 15 ton snatch attached she will do the job i need I am sure.,..am real pleased with my foden, she will be sweet once the speedo is working properly the interior lights are working and the headlights are upgraded, then its a collapsible bed in the cab an extra seat for third and fourth occupants plus a few other luxurys like a working heater in the cab ... i CANNOT WAIT TO TRY HER OUT ON WEDNESDAY COLLECTING ANOTHER ZIL TO PLAY WITH... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazon Joe Posted June 25, 2011 Share Posted June 25, 2011 Just been down to a local military dealers seen a rare prototype Foden wrecker unfortunately being broken up winch sold rear body sold chassis cab for sale.:cry::shocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LORD ELFINWOOD Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Here is a couple of photos of my Foden, which i bought off Simon in the summer, it,s now working in the the forest 2 or 3 days a week, it has had a timber grab and rotator fitted and is a excelent truck for forestry and makes easy work of the 8 mile trip back to our yard fully loaded with timber. Next week i will be fitting a 13.5 ton ramsey winch to the front. I keep thinking of buying a drawbar trailer so we can carry more timber and carry tractors and other machines to the forest, but can,t find one that would suit our needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antar Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 What happened to passenger front window ? Would suggest, WEEK'S tilt bed trailer to be most suitable, close coupled 2 axle rated to carry 10 tons, call David Crouch on 01162792245 I did see one in his Kibworth yard a couple of weeks ago. Just as a point of interest, your truck also belonged to me at one time, I was the first person to own it after the MOD. I also registered it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LORD ELFINWOOD Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Hi the passenger window is still in it,s a trick of the light, even though it is used in the forest, it only gets driven on the forest roadways and fields, it certainly does not barge it,s way through the forest, we use tractors and land rovers to skid the timber to the truck, it get,s treated very well as the last thing i want to do is damage it, i know that forestry can be rough on vehicles. It fits in well with our fleet. 2 David Brown tractors and a Leyland tractor and a Land Rover 90 and an old Discovery, we find that old British stuff is perfect for working in the forest. Cheers nice to hear from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recymech5234 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Hi guys new to the site im a current recy mech and just got rid of my old foden recovery went to withams in good condition with all the kit 33 KE 13 if anyone knows the were abouts now, here is my replacement, Hope you all had a good new year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recymech66 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Nice wagon, I have one just like it. welcome to the site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m109a3uk Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 Hi guys new to the site im a current recy mech and just got rid of my old foden recovery went to withams in good condition with all the kit 33 KE 13 if anyone knows the were abouts now, here is my replacement, [ATTACH=CONFIG]55357[/ATTACH] Hope you all had a good new year Went with all its kit which was quickly stripped out and sold of in the tender dale:shocked: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recymech5234 Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 i know of another foden 6x6 recovery which will be shortly departing our lines bound for withams worth a look for anyone intrested in excellent condition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptimber Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 recovery job came in today 50ft dredging barge sunk into a marina while moored along side the river bank . worked out estimated pull and put down 2/1 recovery tackle using Foden 6x6 prototype winch tractor . job sucessfully and safely completed in about 4 hours much to the relief of the owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recymech66 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Nice photos, good to see that old girls still earning her keep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosrec Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Nice job i guess the winch is the same two speed as fitted to the Crusader fantastic bit of kit with plenty of grunt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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