Rover8FFR Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 (edited) I need to pull my finger out and get on with mine. It's been too long and I must make more time as there is nothing more therapeutic than wielding the spanners and getting grubby . Recent images below. Edited May 14, 2013 by Rover8FFR added photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will16 Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 Found this in my Dads old army pictures. Line of Pigs in NI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Frame Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 (edited) Does anyone here have a shop manual (handbook) that show the chassis details and possibly dimensions for the Humber Pig? Any help is greatly appreciated! Would like a good quality scan of it if possible, thanks in advance. Eric Edited July 19, 2013 by X-Frame Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peakrec Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Big job to change long inner half shaft on rear axle, after removing broken shaft couldnt get twisted 2" remains out of diff. so dismantled left hand side, tapped through, phew, then just to put back, 2 month project lol. All because delivery team pulled it up motorway with front axle in 4x4, i thought it was comming on a low loader ! Its a specialised vehicle and needs special attension to details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Big job to change long inner half shaft on rear axle, after removing broken shaft couldnt get twisted 2" remains out of diff. so dismantled left hand side, tapped through, phew, then just to put back, 2 month project Yes tell me about it! What joints do you have Chobham, Tracta or Birfield? But you were lucky to have a replacement. All because delivery team pulled it up motorway with front axle in 4x4, i thought it was comming on a low loader ! Its a specialised vehicle and needs special attension to details.It is extraordinary how inept people can be. You have to wonder is it ignorance or just couldn't care? I remember I had a Hornet that had been towed by the steering rods which bent because they are hollow, rather than used the shackles a few inches away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Does anyone here have a shop manual (handbook) that show the chassis details and possibly dimensions for the Humber Pig? Any help is greatly appreciated! Would like a good quality scan of it if possible, thanks in advance. Eric Yes I have chassis diagrams with measurements in inches to 3 decimal places. Only just seen this as it was posted during W&P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 (edited) Pigs were originally fitted with a storage locker under the rear floor. But few of the lockers remain intact as they were none too sturdy, but the mounting holes remain. I carry a comprehensive range of spares with me but things like starter motor, 2-speed generator & generator panel take up a lot of room. So an underfloor locker would be ideal. I have run out of sheet steel & looked around ammo boxes of their various kinds but none were of the right proportions. Then I realised I had some industrial metal storage trays 11" x 23" & with the aid of some flat strips could be bolted into the existing holes. So for zero outlay I have two nice spares locker. The trays can only fit under the box sections but this is an advantage to being a flush fit as it increases the depth by 2" to the 6" depth of the trays. So the 8" depth will allow the generator & pulley to fit in. The depth is fairly close to the original locker that was 10" deep. I think it is advantageous having two lockers as there is less scope for things to start rolling around too much. I don't have to put up with the cross bar that was needed in the original. I know that would stop things like starter & generator from rolling around but the floor strut running at right angles makes it awkward loading these items or even a tool box would be awkward to fit in. Edited March 28, 2014 by fv1609 An inch too far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin craig Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 That is really neat. The best part of it is that you satisfy the credo of "no new holes and nothing welded on" so you have not defaced the original vehicle and it can be removed if need be. Very smart indeed R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Looking good Clive , could the judge be presented with Dales award this year I wonder ? I'd have no arguments ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Now the conversation makes absolute sense. thats a neat solution Clive. good intervention. I've got a starter motor in mine or more like Dale left one for me to find Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Funnily enough Andy I was thinking of bringing the Pig. I would sleep in it & that will provide better sound insulation than canvas & if the worst come to the worst I could just drive off home without having to worry about packing up a tent. Well I was speaking to this judge bloke & two things emerged. There will be particular attention paid to the use of zinc phosphate primer BSC Lemon & close scrutiny of rear cross-members for rust. The problem with the rear cross-member is that water can enter it through the large hole on inner surface to access the Warner socket & convoy light. There is a deflecting plate over it but this is not very effective at keeping water out. Nature does provide drainage at each end - eventually. Given that originality has provided a drain hole, he was of the opinion that a replica hole was acceptable as this would increase the longevity of the vehicle, which is after all what this is all about. The purpose being that our vehicles will outlast ourselves for others to enjoy in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I've got a starter motor in mine So have I now :-D or more like Dale left one for me to find Yes like a Gideons Bible, it's always there in case the next user needs it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Grundy Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Would Mr Clive have anything to say about this one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 My eyesight isn't that good Bob. Have you got a larger picture? So was this one that passed through your hands? It is/was a Mk 2 struck off 6/2/92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Clive I assume that you will have a hole at each end. This is always best practise and adds symmetry. The rear of the Pig is looking very impressive. Your efforts have not been wasted at all. Wayno Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I've noticed your chassis is painted black! The chassis on mine is most definitely DBG and I can only assume it to be original. Are you top coating in DBG or is black original specification. Cheers PS I forgot to mention my wipers worked yesterday also. It was a day of revelations yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Clive I assume that you will have a hole at each end. This is always best practise and adds symmet Wayno just relies on an incorrectly adjusted torsion bar so water drains on the lower side :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I've noticed your chassis is painted black! The chassis on mine is most definitely DBG and I can only assume it to be original. Are you top coating in DBG or is black original specification. Cheers PS I forgot to mention my wipers worked yesterday also. It was a day of revelations yesterday. Yes gloss black even the Pig chassis rear extension was black. Also the rubber paint on the torsion bars was black. ok on wipers, you can drive it in the rain now :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyFowler Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I also drive mine in the rain just means I don't have as much War and Peace dust on my face when I get home , more like a mud face pack :-D Could you let me know nearer the time if you are definitely taking the Pig this year please Clive as it may make me a little more entusiastic about taking mine ! :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I also drive mine in the rain just means I don't have as much War and Peace dust on my face when I get home , more like a mud face pack :-D Could you let me know nearer the time if you are definitely taking the Pig this year please Clive as it may make me a little more entusiastic about taking mine ! :-D Andy you've got to take it. Over the years you have been the most consistent Pig exhibitor. :-D More than half of the Pigs in the programme never turn up. I think is not because of breakdowns but I suspect some have no great intention of taking it anyway, it is just something to enter & then turn up in some other type of vehicle. I'm told it can make judging difficult trying to find vehicles that aren't actually there, yet one doesn't want a disappointed owner who feels their vehicle was never judged. I've not decided whether it is Shorland + tent or Pig - tent. Fuel is the thing of course twice the consumption on the Pig, But on the other hand I found the stalls so disappointing (for the things that interest me) that I only spent £4 so that helps with the fuel fund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 just relies on an incorrectly adjusted torsion bar so water drains on the lower side :-D Actually there was reciprocal damage & repair on the opposite side. Although the attack is less so on this side. Was the vehicle stored at one stage on uneven ground? Or were the torsion bars incorrectly set? Goodness knows it is hard to follow the correct procedure in a domestic situation. Finding enough level ground is one thing, but finding the manpower to roll it is something else :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I recall a comment about a Piggy being towed in 4WD and it made me think of the message painted on my transmission cover. It may have been a regular error by drivers, or in a panic situation bugging out? It wont have been the bottle of beer either boys as it was alcohol free :cool2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Clive those lockers are looking ace if you don't mind me saying. Further to our discussions on this I thought it helpful to share some images of mine to show another version. I hope they are of use and show the internal sides and floor and the underside etc. Let me know if you need more and I will see what images I have on file. PS I am still looking at the side lockers / cabling query :-) Ignore the starter motor. You will note that the rear locker support 'flat' strapping has had some contact with something and been twisted slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover8FFR Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Some more images to show lockers Clive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Certainly an important message there Wayne on the transmission cover, not seen that before. Not sure if its an in-service mark as a painting fetishsist may have been at work when you look at the yellow wheel nuts & only certain things in the cab, not the more usual things on the doors that get the treatment. So are you going be getting it up to this standard eventually? This photo was taken for me by Phil Plumb a couple of years. Bit of a shame I've watched the fortunes of this one for over 30 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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