67burwood Posted June 15, 2020 Author Share Posted June 15, 2020 Forgot to take a picture before I removed it, the plate fits perfectly to the gearbox with all bolts lining up, then the plate fits to the engine with the top and sides all lining up spot on apart from the bottom 3 bolts, either way it works well and the clutch operates fine but I do need to source a new clutch plate and cover as there quite worn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woa2 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 13 hours ago, Ex-boy said: I seem to remember that ENFO stood for English Ford, but don’t quote me on that. ENFO does mean English Ford, but it started in about 1950/51. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woa2 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Just noticed there is a Ford WOT6 Maintenance manual on ebay, item number 333625599238. I have no connection with the seller or item, and only thought you might be interested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rootes75 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 I also see an Instruction book for a WOT1 on Ebay, Item number 353105280796. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 4 hours ago, woa2 said: Just noticed there is a Ford WOT6 Maintenance manual on ebay, item number 333625599238. I have no connection with the seller or item, and only thought you might be interested. Thanks for letting me know, I’ve just found it and will be patiently waiting to bid!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 Just started to strip the gearbox and it doesn’t look good, even after a good degrease it’s still mucky! The gears and shafts are heavily pitted, I will take some pictures tomorrow to get second opinions. The main problem now is getting a rear gearbox mount, pictured below is what’s left, definitely “ fubar “ Any ideas where I can get a replacement? Front bearing missing a few ball bearings 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted June 16, 2020 Author Share Posted June 16, 2020 (edited) I’ve found a parts supplier in the US that looks to stock virtually all the gearbox parts including the rear mount but I just need some clarification on part numbers I know that BB means light truck but what does BBE mean? Is it BB England? The part numbers are the same on the US parts but they all start BB and my parts book are a mix of BB and BBE Edited June 16, 2020 by 67burwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duson Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 21 hours ago, 67burwood said: I’ve found a parts supplier in the US that looks to stock virtually all the gearbox parts including the rear mount but I just need some clarification on part numbers Is that Macs ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 23 minutes ago, Duson said: Is that Macs ? No it’s Vanpelt Sales , Mac’s no longer stock the rear mount and I couldn’t find much for the non synchro Gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 Now be honest!! Opinions and options welcome, these are the worst bits, the lay gear cluster and reverse gear look fairly good but the rest is rustic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Herbert Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 I feel that you could reuse those bits if you really had to but they won't last long and will put lots of swarf into the oil as they bed in. It all depends on budget but this was a relatively common gearbox in its day so it must be possible to find another. If you replace only the really bad gears they will be messed up by the old gears that are just fairly bad. A bit of pitting on the teeth won't do any harm but when it exceeds 10% of the contact area I think you have to regard them as scrap. Sorry ! David 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted June 17, 2020 Author Share Posted June 17, 2020 Thanks for your input David, I am of the same opinion as you, they could be used but won’t last and it’s not worth just replacing the really bad ones, don’t think a full rebuild is in the budget at the moment, start adding up all the parts and it gets expensive. Does anyone have a spare wot6 gearbox gathering dust in there garage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citroman Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 If your parts book says BB wouldn't a gearbox from a Ford BB be easier to find? If the are the same of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 I believe the BB is Ford speak for light truck, the wot6 casing is different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Herbert Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Yes, but you have the casing. I would bet though that the difference is very minor and that all the internals will interchange directly. It would not surprise me if say Universal Carrier boxes weren't basically the same box, along with virtually every Ford V8 truck of the period. This is Ford, everything is standardized. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 I agree that the internals are most likely the same and I am willing to explore all avenues so if anyone has a non synchro ford V8 gearbox or parts from that period please let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rootes75 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 With Ford's economy of manufacture you can imagine that V8's associated internals would all use common parts, military or civilian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatchFuzee Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Is fitting a Ford gearbox that the D4 engine was originally mated to an option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 Not entirely sure which gearbox’s fitted the 4d, I believe the Thames trader did but I don’t know any others, ideally I would like to keep the wot6 gearbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super6 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 Are these a 4 speed gearbox? I have a 1947/48 Fordson Commercial Vehicles spare parts list for the 7V, the exploded view of the gearbox looks very similar to the one posted above, albeit without pto, has a blank plate/gasket shown though, and a different gearstick. Its whole part number is for the ET6 range as released in 1947, so another possible avenue for a replacement gearbox? I think the ET6 latterly became a home for the 4D engine so possibly where the adaptor plate came from originally? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 1 hour ago, 67burwood said: Not entirely sure which gearbox’s fitted the 4d, I believe the Thames trader did but I don’t know any others, ideally I would like to keep the wot6 gearbox. When working on the WOT6 some years back I found the gearbox full to brim with water. The gears were OK, but replaced all bearings. Gearbox casing was found to be cracked (possibly frozen at some point). I found another casing, I do not recall if it was marked WOT6 but it all fitted and rear plate matched up. We found that a particular CV boot can be fitted to the gear lever to stop ingress of rain water. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted June 18, 2020 Author Share Posted June 18, 2020 36 minutes ago, super6 said: Are these a 4 speed gearbox? I have a 1947/48 Fordson Commercial Vehicles spare parts list for the 7V, the exploded view of the gearbox looks very similar to the one posted above, albeit without pto, has a blank plate/gasket shown though, and a different gearstick. Its whole part number is for the ET6 range as released in 1947, so another possible avenue for a replacement gearbox? I think the ET6 latterly became a home for the 4D engine so possibly where the adaptor plate came from originally? I’ve just compared both parts lists and there almost identical, all they have done is change the start of the parts number, ie wot6 to Et6, thanks for the info. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super6 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Is this the same as you are looking for? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fordson-Thames-Flathead-V8-Rear-Engine-Support-Mounting-NEW-GENUINE/274403288051?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67burwood Posted June 21, 2020 Author Share Posted June 21, 2020 Fantastic spot, that’s just the ticket 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woa2 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 On 6/16/2020 at 10:51 AM, woa2 said: Just noticed there is a Ford WOT6 Maintenance manual on ebay, item number 333625599238. I have no connection with the seller or item, and only thought you might be interested. Did you get that manual? I saw it has ended. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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