wally dugan Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 You know what they say CLIVE the lady's not for turning😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Indeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Lunch time break there numerous trials reports on land rovers and l could spend lots of time posting them but this l promise is the last only because the museum had one of the prototype FC 101 and POWERED TRAILERs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony B Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) There is a 101 and powered triler at Gaydon, the only one I have ever seen. Edited May 30, 2020 by Tony B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 The special water dispenser 1974-77 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wally dugan Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 Well it's all happening today the boxes all that were left are ready for pick up today the builders arrived as planned l have a few items which l have scanned while packing left to post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Paragraph 2 is interesting. It might help dispel the belief that Bridge Classification is merely the weight of the vehicle & load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted June 1, 2020 Author Share Posted June 1, 2020 Always liked the STALWART l have five different catalogues from ALVIS on them and a one hour video of the factory the early trials the sea trials and its off road trials the prototype water trials were conducted in a flooded quarry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiomike7 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 2 hours ago, fv1609 said: Paragraph 2 is interesting. It might help dispel the belief that Bridge Classification is merely the weight of the vehicle & load. Can you clarify Clive, was it to do with individual axle weights and the distance between them? I seem to remember the Contractor trials vehicle had the lighter 30 ton rear bogie and 8.5 ton front axle leaving 60 tons plus for the 4 trailer axles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Mike this is from some notes I have made on the subject. Bridge Load Classification (STANAG 2021) Introduced 1960-63 The bridge load classification was said to originally have represented by the rounded-up weight of the vehicle in tons. "The new system relates to the characteristics of the vehicle which includes overall weight, number of axles, distance between axles, axle load (unladen & laden), tyre size, ground clearance etc and bears no direct relationship to the former system." It must be remembered that is a STANAG, which is a NATO Standard applicable to many countries. The UK had already taken some account of factors other than weight. What changed in the U.K. was that the mechanism for calculating a figure was now standardised with other NATO countries. The classification of bridges was also changed to take account of the effects that particular vehicles would have on the bridge. However, the application of the system is the same as before, in that only a vehicle load class less or equal to the bridge load class number may cross the bridge. The load class number is based on vehicles travelling at normal convoy speeds at a spacing of 100 feet. The classification also relates to ferries and takes into account an assessment of the state of the approaches to the crossing to produce an overall classification. There was no point in UK based vehicles having a Bridge Class displayed, as the Joint Service Road Transport Regulations JSP 341 states that: The UK will not prepare classification signs for civilian bridges and ferries in UK territory in peacetime. 1st September 1959. Originally issued as SDM(L) 219/1, Computation of Bridge, Raft, and Vehicle Classification. 26th February 1968. Reissued at intervals until SDM(L) 219/3 cancelled and replaced by Defence Standard STANAG 2010 revised and reissued as edition No. 3. Def Stan 23-2 Computation and Marking of Bridge and Raft Load Classification Numbers for Military Vehicles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 I seem to have used up my uploads for that post. Here is the next one, but there are loads more charts, illustrating that Bridge Class is a very complicated subject & is a lot more than just the weight of the vehicle basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 (edited) This is a study report to see if better use could be made of commercially available trucks in the 8 ton to 16 ton range as way of reducing the overall cost of the fleet as you can see they used models for illustration Edited June 2, 2020 by wally dugan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted June 2, 2020 Author Share Posted June 2, 2020 Two more trials while packing l found a number of trials on the DYSON 50 ton trailer this is one of the later ones taking part in South Africa the ANTAR was the prime mover INDIA and PAKISTAN were also supplied with results of these trials. It's strange how much you forget of what you have collected there are trial reports that are comparison trails just after 1945 of wartime vehicles and equipment such as motorcycles and automobiles Bedford's QL MW OY AUSTINS in the K series K2 to K6 AEC's in fact every thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 These are the last of what l had time to scan what l have posted only make's up a small part of all of it and covers most things british military vehicles and equipment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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radiomike7 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 On 6/1/2020 at 2:15 PM, fv1609 said: Mike this is from some notes I have made on the subject. Bridge Load Classification (STANAG 2021) Introduced 1960-63 Thanks for posting that Clive, most interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 l promise this is the last something that is so often overlooked are the water slide transfers l collect them as the originals are a good resource for colour and design even if they are slightly damaged here are a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Peakrec Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 More wonderful history you have saved there, all subjects that are not usually available. Great stuff, Nigel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 (edited) A couple of weeks ago a old friend of over forty years + died at the age of ninety one he had a better collection of military documents than l two boxes have come and in one which measures 22 L X 20 W X 24 H which is full of cardboard backed display panels all are of the CMP vehicles 3 in a set Edited July 5, 2020 by wally dugan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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