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Found this document elsewhere.

https://www.orbat85.nl/documents/BAOR-July-1989.pdf

 

Full of detail of what was where.

I assume it is now irrelevant due to all the BAOR Units now defunct or returned to UK.

 

Found my old units listed but no detail on RAF (G) Sqns.

 

 

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Great find, Bryan.  Thanks for the link.  Fascinating - like you found old units - a number of them actually!  But, my goodness, where did it all go?  Seemed so solid at the time and that it would last forever.

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What I find interesting is the vehicle allocation detail.

 

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I agree - one thing which caught my eye was the number of Centurions maintained in war stocks as late as they were.  I wonder when they finally went.  I'm always interested in lists of equipment held.  When I was in the Sappers in about 1982, among the ubiquitous Mk 1 Millies we had a single Leyland Martian GS.  No idea why, we just did.  It wasn't particularly reliable and wasn't used a great deal - I think it towed the servicing trailer, but as that was always VOR (usually lacking a test certificate for the compressor tank - because other bits missing precluded its being sent for testing), it didn't get out much.  As I recall, the servicing trailer was the only piece of kit in the troop which never worked while I was there (closely followed by the Mk5 Coles cranes which spent so long going through the REME system having the safe load indicator certified that it came out of 37 Rhine Workshops was it(?) and went straight back in again!) The Hydra Husky could be a bit of a pain for the same reason  - and they added a boom extension sensor for checking as well!  After that the least reliable was the LMD.  Muir Hills were generally pretty good as were the Allises - which were also more popular than the Terex.  The Barford was also thought more highly of than the Haulamatic with its heated rear loadbed which precluded stowing a lot of stuff in it for deployments.  Hey ho - happy days!

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On 2/24/2020 at 7:17 PM, ploughman said:

Found my old units listed but no detail on RAF (G) Sqns.

The RAF, at this point, published their Locations of Units annually.

The January 1990 edition has: 

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In the entry for RAF Bruggen on the first page, I see no mention of 52 SQN ADR CONST RE normally based at 22 Engr Reg at Perham Down Tidworth back in the UK. I believe that they were allocated to Bruggen and had facilities and vehicles based there permenantly.

From personnel experience I was with them between 1978 and 1983.

Was 52's role not required by 1990? Even with a different SQN.

 

A similar situation would apply to Gutersloh, Laarbruch and Wildenrath. These being covered by RE units from Ripon, Maidstone and Waterbeach.

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Bryan,

It appears the RAF Location of Units doesn't include the RE. I guess the Signals lot were more integrated into RAF operations, hence why they are included?

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