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CB 300 Series Comms Body Lifting shackle info please!

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Hi! Does anyone have a photo or Part No of the shackle/Plate?
Does the 'lifting plate' go up into the channel of the rail, or slot into the circular holes in the side of it?
Thanks in advance!
Gaz

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Here you go Gaz.

Two locating pins at the top with 3 bolt holes at the bottom.

SWL 2915lb

By Arbil.

Hope that helps

Iain

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Iain, you are an info God Sir!
Had a look on xmod and no luck there...And I think maybe too expense for a single off & on lift! 
At least I have all the info now on how it's done!
Got a local Engineering firm who no doubt can come up with something simpler. see pic.
I did not know that the holes were threaded and there is reinforcement underneath!
Thanks again, you have saved me a fair bit of head scratching there Mate!

Cheers
Gaz

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Glad to help Gaz.

I have to confess that I have used the shackles on the ends to lift on occasion, using wood planks to protect the structure. I'm not sure that they are rated for lifting but it worked ok.

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That's handy to know Iain Thanks!
I could not find any info on the web about the plates after searching the NSN!
Do you still have the plates Iain?  The pins are 13mm, the threaded holes seem to be M12 but, with the age of the cabin (Pre Metrification,) I'm wondering whether they are actually 1/2" something or other?
It may be quicker to tap them out to Metric?
I will keep you posted with my progress 👍
Cheers
Gaz

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Missed info in last post Doh!

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Yes,  they are 1/2 UNC.    M12 x 1.75 are a close but not correct fit.

Iain

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2 hours ago, DafT 244 said:


It may be quicker to tap them out to Metric?
 

Hi Gaz,

It would not be at all advisable to tap the threads out to Metric, use the correct UNC bolts, these are lifting points and you will weaken the threads. Safety is the name of the game here!

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Hmm, yes, wise advice Richard, especially as I can probably get them from just down the road!
Thanks
Gaz

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On 6/29/2019 at 8:22 PM, Mk3iain said:

Glad to help Gaz.

I have to confess that I have used the shackles on the ends to lift on occasion, using wood planks to protect the structure. I'm not sure that they are rated for lifting but it worked ok.

An update Iain...the treads are trashed! See pic
 

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Just now, DafT 244 said:

An update Iain...the treads are trashed! See pic
 

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You said you used the shackles on the to do a lift, did you mean these?
 

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Just now, DafT 244 said:

You said you used the shackles on the to do a lift, did you mean these?
 

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If so, had a look at the other not yet covered over with insulation...
Not realising they are actually mounted to the floor/base as well, I'm quite happy to use them to lift the cabin off!.

Just need to source some 1 1/2 Ton shackles now, I think I already have some! And will save me the expense of having 4 side brackets made up too!
Thanks again!

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Yes that's the ones Gaz.

I find them easier to use anyway and you would need a spreader bar for the side lift points. You can get away without one easier using the end shackles.

It so happens I lifted and moved one yesterday and although it was still loaded with around half a ton of stuff(maybe more) it was no problem.

Disclaimer,(just in case)

All relevant health and safety stuff was taken into account and the risk assessment and lift plan approved. Tested and rated lift gear( as much as I could), trained and competent operator. Carried out in a controlled and contained environmental using eco friendly fuel and an inclusive and diverse  Eco crew.

 

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Iain, you are a Godsend Mate!
And that is a proper Engineering Workshop isn't it? Lathes & pillar drills etc....
The top corner brackets...I thought they were for Antennas or something like, it looks like that is what they are really for?
But thinking about it, if there is one on each corner, they would act as a spreader bar wouldn't they?
And BIG Thank You for the photos, I can work out the exact length of each of the 'Brothers' when I arrange the Lift!
Bouncing here..
Gaz

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No problem Gaz

Sadly it's not a workshop but a repurposed comms shack and was just an open space with a bench down one side. I have fitted shelves and use it as a store.

The corner brackets I had initially thought were for antenna but they all seem to have them and they are strong, I think they are for legs for free standing the container. Maybe someone who has used them or is knowledgable will let us know.

Iain

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3 minutes ago, Mk3iain said:

No problem Gaz

Sadly it's not a workshop but a repurposed comms shack and was just an open space with a bench down one side. I have fitted shelves and use it as a store.

The corner brackets I had initially thought were for antenna but they all seem to have them and they are strong, I think they are for legs for free standing the container. Maybe someone who has used them or is knowledgable will let us know.

Iain

Oh that's a point Iain! Don't the Zeppelin cabins have that facility so the truck can drive from under the cabin etc?
Or maybe the Yank ones.....
Gaz

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On 7/10/2019 at 10:27 AM, Mk3iain said:

Yes that's the ones Gaz.

I find them easier to use anyway and you would need a spreader bar for the side lift points. You can get away without one easier using the end shackles.

It so happens I lifted and moved one yesterday and although it was still loaded with around half a ton of stuff(maybe more) it was no problem.

Disclaimer,(just in case)

All relevant health and safety stuff was taken into account and the risk assessment and lift plan approved. Tested and rated lift gear( as much as I could), trained and competent operator. Carried out in a controlled and contained environmental using eco friendly fuel and an inclusive and diverse  Eco crew.

 

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Hi Iain, If I may ask another Q? I had ordered what I thought were the 4 correct shackles from XMod a couple of days ago,as they didn't state the pin diam in the advert, I asked them Not to send them if the pin diam was over 3/4" 19mm...  https://www.thexmod.com/item_detail.asp?id=2867&t=Shackle_2_3/4_IN_Inside_FV2084745

Got a refund from them this morning! Do you happen to have the part no. for the one's you use?
Regards
Gary

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Here are pics of all the markings,no part numbers but manufacturers indents.

It would be easier to get ones that fit from a local supplier, at least they will then have certs.

I hope that helps.

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Much obliged Iain, and Thanks for your time! So they are the same shackles for the side lift plates...SWL 2195 Lbs!
Thanks
Gaz 

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Hi Iain, Managed to get 4 shackles today to do the job here! Spent nearly 4hrs on the 'Net searching for the right shackle pin, diam, corresponding 'Jaw' size but no luck and was then recommended a company not to far from me and sorted me with certified shackles that fit the job perfectly!
Individually they are rated at  15cwt/.76T and together will lift 3T ! They each fail at 3T...
Thanks for your help Iain !
Regards

Gaz

Andy Tomlinson E: sales@chesterchain.co.uk

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Perfect Gaz,

Always good to find these local sources and they will come in handy for other things I'm sure.

Cheers

Iain

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