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hi can any one help, I have just bought two Saxon patrol armoured cars. There are a few bits missing like a drivers seat, a lift pump for a Cummins 5.9 diesel . The front and rear wings with the lights on .

could use some info and internal pictures .

have 180 military vehicles but know little about Saxons and road legalities.

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Saxons seem to have been built using some common parts with a Bedford KM. Spares should be fairly easily obtained for the Cummins engine they seem to be a popular engine to shoehorn between many different types of chassis rails. 

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Not sure you can call a SAXON (APC) an armoured car as it's intended role was troop transport under armour. The vehicle is I believe based on a Bedford frame and running gear with either a Bedford 500 diesel (early versions) or latterly a Cummins BT 6-91 litre diesel with a few acquiring Peak one-man turrets as fitted to some 432's with a GPMG  - desirable all the same

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And do you know anyone breaking them. Quicker to buy second hand bits than make them from scratch.

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4 hours ago, Baz48 said:

Not sure you can call a SAXON (APC) an armoured car as it's intended role was troop transport under armour. The vehicle is I believe based on a Bedford frame and running gear with either a Bedford 500 diesel (early versions) or latterly a Cummins BT 6-91 litre diesel with a few acquiring Peak one-man turrets as fitted to some 432's with a GPMG  - desirable all the same

The first ones into service had the Bedford 500 engine, I think they were for infantry units as I recollect. Later on, another version came out for Internal Security (ie for use in NI) and this was the one with the Cummins engine. Thinking about it now, the engine change may have come about after Bedford stopped truck production.

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i was in bosnia with the duke of boots in 94. we had saxons based on bedford tm's, while in theatre they were retrofitted with the peak gpmg turret. bloody useless offroad but i still have a soft spot for them. i keep an eye out for my old saxon 98KF95 but not seen it yet.

if i remember right there were a few saxons on RAF Tain bombing range

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Marcus Glenn has an ex-reserve Saxon for sale on his website

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98KF95 will probably be in Jordan with the rest of the Saxons. They were lined up at Withams for a while.

5 Dec 2002 1 MERCIAN 16 Jan 2003
24 Aug 2005 4RIFLES 24 Aug 2005
23 Feb 2006 TFSU (UK) 1 Mar 2006
22 Jan 2007 JSCS ASHCHURCH 3 Feb 2007
11 Jun 2007 WITHAM (SPECIALIST VEHICLES) LTD 6 Jul 2007
20 Mar 1988 VEHICLE DEPOT LUDGERSHALL 21 Mar 1988
27 Jul 1989 2 RGJ REAR PARTY 22 Aug 1989
24 Aug 1989 2 RGJ 24 Aug 1989
16 Mar 1991 3 RGJ 17 Mar 1991
24 Aug 1992 4RIFLES 24 Aug 1992
14 May 1993 1YORKS 14 May 1993
16 Mar 1995 OP GRAPPLE BRITBAT 2 16 Mar 1995
3 Dec 1996 ABRO WARMINSTER PLANNED REPAIR. 5 Dec 1996
3 Dec 1996 2RIFLES 3 Dec 1996
3 Dec 1996 OP RESOLUTE - 1 RFF 3 Dec 1996
20 Oct 1997 JSCS ASHCHURCH 21 Oct 1997

 

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I believe those that didn't go to the Middle East went to some former Russian  Baltic country with few remaining in the UK

 

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Some of the SAXONS ended up in the UKRAINE they were never popular saw one filled with ces kits  locked up  and is still there as a gate guardian

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17 hours ago, wally dugan said:

Some of the SAXONS ended up in the UKRAINE they were never popular saw one filled with ces kits  locked up  and is still there as a gate guardian

https://www.unian.info/war/1043957-british-saxon-armored-cars-to-be-delivered-to-ukrainian-army-after-reconversion-and-testing.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/11412838/Sir-Richard-Dannatt-condemns-armoured-vehicle-transfer-to-Ukraine.html

Online press coverage of the transfer back in 2015.....

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