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Does anyone know the paint code (RAL number) for US Dark Olive?

 

Ron

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If you search "dark olive" on E-Paint only a BS number no RAL number:-

Colour Range: BS 4800/5252
Colour reference: 10 C 39
Description: Dark olive / Saluki / Seaweed / Riverbed       

https://www.e-paint.co.uk/search_colour.asp

Searching "olive drab" gives you the RAL, BS and other numbers but the olive green is not the same for each number.

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Thanks very much for that. I'm respraying a friends military Indian Chief motorcycle. I know I can buy it from the Jeep traders etc, but I much prefer to use the paint from my local auto paint firm. I'll buy a ltr of your recommended colour and see if it give the desired "Goose Turd Green" .  Ron

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The article on this Harley says that it has been painted in Federal Standard 383 but there isn't a Federal Standard 383 so,  I assume, that it is really:-

Colour Range: Federal Standard 595
Colour reference: 34094
Description: Green 383 camouflage

https://eu.tallahassee.com/story/news/2017/03/01/local-harley-davidson-techs-vets-build-wwii-themed-bike/98303830/

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Right! Well i collected that 10 C 39 and it is very "Nappy Brown", so I will talk to my paint firm about this new colour. Cheers Ron

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The Norwegian army chose to repaint all their WW2 are vehicles in RAL 6014 after the war. I've had my Dodge WC51 painted in that shade and it's pretty close...

Good luck  ..

Goran N

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Out of interest, are the flags white cotton with felt/wool crosses?

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Hi Engima,

I wouldn't say that the crosses are felt material, but rather a coarse/heavy weave red cotton fabric, and the white background, a fairly coarse cotton too. I would guess that making flags in a cotton-polyester material would be better, if you are planning to drive with the flags attached over longer periods of time. Cotton flags will tear at the ends, and fray easier than the poly blend one's will.

Here are pictures of the flags, (I have exactly the same, NOS, flags that I got many years ago from a friend) and close ups so you can see how they are sewn. These flags are very simple and easy to make yourself.

 

Flag, Ambulance and Marker, Stock No. 5-F-2150:
Primarily used to distinguish Ambulances and Aid Stations protected by the Geneva Convention. The flag or marker consisted of 12-inch Red Cross centered on a White rectangular Field 18 by 27 inches. The flag (when not in use) could be covered by a Case, Flag, Duck, Automobile, Stock No. 5-C-50, the staff was officially designated Flagstaff, Wood, Marker and Marker Pennant,  Stock No. 5-F-6590.

Best of luck, and keep us posted.

Goran N

 

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Those look good.

I made a cotton one with felt crosses only to find out sometimes in the rain the crossed bled a little. How I ronic a red cross flag bleeding red...

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I know of several home made red cross flags with the same problem.

 

I guess the best way to solve that is to repeatedly  wash the red fabric in high temperature, like 90 degrees C, and dry it it in between, or until it stops bleeding.

 

Cheaper quality fabric/cloth also has a tendency to bleed, especially on white, like in this case..

Best of luck, my friend, let us know how you're doing

Goran N (a.k.a. Goran WC51)

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I also made some pennants and decided to use textile paint, more work but looks good and doesn't bleed.

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I suppose that technique was used during WW2 as well. There are many photos showing red cross flags, and markings straight onto buildings, where the red cross was painted on.

The enclosed photo, which shows Pvc Warren Capers, who was awarded the Silver Star for heroism after he had landed in Normandy after D-Day, in his Dodge WC51 ambulance. The red cross marking has clearly been painted onto the canvas of the Dodge. I am contemplating on doing the same with my present canvas cover or my WC51, which has been on that truck since I bought it in 1993 (!). I've repaired one tear, which I caused by accident, and I had to re-impregnate it a few ears ago, after the cover had started dripping slightly when there was really heavy rain.

I have used two cloth red cross flags, that were used by a scout group here in Ssweden, and had eyelets in each corner.. So I tied string onto each corner and fastened it to each side of the rear canvas. The good thing was that it was easy to remove them, but the downside was that they falpped really hard in the wind when driving.

 

Live long, and prosper,

Goran N

 

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