webley455 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) I have just taken delivery of a Humber FV1611 Pig (27BK21) and a Harley-Davidson MT350 (Military reg not known) where can I find service records for the Pig? And is it possible to ID the reg number for the MT350 from the VIN? Edited September 4, 2018 by webley455 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally dugan Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) Well you can try the RLC museum Deepcut for both with the information you have or CLIVE ELLIOT on here for the pig Edited September 4, 2018 by wally dugan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulob1 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 they are a nice pair good purchases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webley455 Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 Thanks, they are now ticked off my original ‘wants list’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 27 BK 51 FV1602 (ie CT FFW) Contract No. 6/V/6443 Chassis No. 02751 Engine No. 4832 Delivered to 31st B Vehicle Depot Church Broughton 29/12/54 Receipt Voucher CBR/R/2646 Converted to FV1612 (ie Armoured FFW) circa 1959-60 Contract No. 6/V/27210 Struck Off Census BAOR 12/9/67 One of about 200 recovered in 1972 Converted to Mk 2 FV1611 role in Operation Bracelet June 1972-Sept 1973 Disposal date not known Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webley455 Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 Thanks for that but mine is 27BK21 not 27BK51 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Oh stupid me. I'll sort that might be a little while to pull it together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peakrec Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 27BK21 I have it as FV1611 APC up armoured and modified to Mk 2 for use in Northern Ireland. Clive will confirm all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webley455 Posted September 9, 2018 Author Share Posted September 9, 2018 I have managed to locate its sheet from the RLC database, but any further info would be appreciated, especially photos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 To be going on with, in NI still a Mk 1 at this stage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Well I can't beat that for detail. Interesting to see it became 75 MS 181 for final sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peakrec Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Thought paperwork looked similar, my Pig 21BK96 was struck off 22/10/91. L10609 Private sale (Stratford) REF No 75MS163 Disposal Sales. 6/2 /92 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 27 BK 21 Contract No. 6/V/6443 Asset Code 314659.01.777 FV1602A (ie GS FFW with no winch) Engine No.8482 Delivered to 31st B Vehicle Depot Church Broughton 14/12/54 Receipt Voucher CBR/R/27210 In 1966 the structure of Asset Codes changed to a simpler (for the computer to understand) but less informative format. When converted to a Pig (Mk 1) FV1612A it was coded 1766.0501 When converted to Mk 2 it did not retain FFW role as FFR & become 1765.2501 But became 1760.2501 which is APC role as FV1611 Photo is IWM Ref. NI 70/29/3 which looks like it might give a clue to the date. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 25 minutes ago, Peakrec said: Thought paperwork looked similar, my Pig 21BK96 was struck off 22/10/91. L10609 Private sale (Stratford) REF No 75MS163 Disposal Sales. 6/2 /92 Yes and yours had a unique history, I don't think any other Humber went through so many structural & role changes, from being a 310125.01.777 !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Merlin says date in service 01/01/1955, cast 26/09/93. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peakrec Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Yes was a missile launcher, then to an up armoured Mk 2 with complete new body, do you know what the Humber starter life as Clive ? FV1601, FV1602 ? Best regards Nigel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 Nigel as you know the internet is riddled with guff that the Hornets were modified Pigs, which is utter nonsense. One would be tempted to think that the Hornets would have been based on FV1602 having a FFW facility already but an oil fed 25A dynamo was of no use. The Hornets were built from the FV1601, the weedy 12A dynamo was of no use either as 100A alternators were fitted & the engines were redesignated as B60 Mk 5F. The internet & even EMERs state it was a Mk 5A, which is wrong, if you look at Hornet engine plates they are restamped 5F. There is a wealth of nonsense out there, even airborne related sites get so many things wrong. So many sites copy from each other & make unfounded & extraordinary assumptions. Even copying data from official Hornet publications is misleading because they were written before the Hornets went into production & relate to the prototypes. An accurate description of their development & deployment is covered in Hornet specific chapter in the limited edition book The Parachute Squadron RAC 1965-76. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peakrec Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Many thanks Clive. Starting to wire brush and clean under mine, then to get it painted and keep things ship shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferret1958uk Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 27BK21. There is a photo of it on the Op Banner FB Group. So now you have a photo of it as a Mk2! The photo was posted by Dominic Ostrowski, so he may own the image? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webley455 Posted August 10, 2019 Author Share Posted August 10, 2019 Excellent, thank you very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fv1609 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Pleased to see them not stood in front of the registration plate : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webley455 Posted August 10, 2019 Author Share Posted August 10, 2019 Very considerate of them, can’t make out the Regiment, Something (?) Fusiliers possibly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferret1958uk Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 My guess is fusilliers, probably during its time as a pooled NI vehicle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webley455 Posted August 11, 2019 Author Share Posted August 11, 2019 Agreed, red/white hackle was Northumberland Fusiliers, later Royal Fusiliers when serving in NI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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