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A friend told me that (late) bedford MW's, and maybe all (late) war time british vehicles, didn't leave the UK during WWII with a mickey mouse camouflage pattern and never had this camouflage pattern. Only vehicles which stayed in the UK during WWII had a Mickey mouse camouflage pattern. What is true about this since I was planning to apply a Mickey mouse camouflage pattern on my bedford MW assuming this is correct for the European theatre during WWII.

Thanks,

Danny

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IF a vehicle had been painted in mickey mouse and was still in good order it would remain so l have seen a picture of vehicles await embarkation for D-DAY and some were wearing mickey mouse camouflage

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Some body will no doubt quote the relevant regulation soon but you can probably say by the time of D Day routine application of disruptive painting had ceased.  As Wally states if a vehicle was still servicable what it was painted in made no difference.   Indeed by early 1944 the majority of British manufactured vehicles would have still been in brown but thats another subject.

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I'd agree with above.  Here are some examples:

(IWM Photo B5012 - see the 3-tonners far right)

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(IWM Photo B5929)

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(IWM photo B5937)

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Mickey Mouse was never a formal pattern, just one variation of the foliage scheme shown in Military Training Pamphlet MTP46/4A, details of which can be found on the web. Disruptive painting was discouraged from August 1944 anyway.

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Some of my Dad's signals unit with the K5 Portee to GS conversion that they finished the war in Germany with. It looks as if only the tilt on this one had disruptive.

Austin K5 Portee GS.jpg

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Thank you all!

Nice pictures indeed! Sufficient evidence to apply a Mickey mouse camouflage pattern on my Bedford MW. Everyone will agree that more pictures are welcome to enjoy!

Any chance to discuss about which pattern on a Bedford MWD? Maybe like the pattern on the MWR below? Similar pattern on the MWD below?

Thanks,

Danny

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The pattern shown is called the  DAPPLE or to  most mickey mouse due to the shapes looking like the ear of said mouse

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The similarities between the Mickey Mouse patterning on the MWD and the MWR suggests that there was actually a set way of applying the disruptive patterning within the factory. 

Wally, according to some experts Mickey Mouse is actually a stylised combination of the dapple and foliage schemes

 

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Looking at the so called "Dapple"/"Foliage" or “Mickey Mouse” camouflage pattern on the Bedford MWD as shown in the pictures below I was wondering how the camouflage pattern on the GS-body may look like with the tarpaulin taken off the vehicle.  I have indicated this in red implying that some “ears” will not be there on the GS-body.  Is this correct, or could there be any “ears” under the tarpaulin which means that there are actually two patterns, with and without tarpaulin?

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The above pattern is similar to the pattern below.

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Is the above pattern typical for the MWD and will it be different on a MWR and MW compressor truck as shown below or is it just a variety of choice by the painter?

The camouflage pattern in the following pictures (MWR and compressor truck) is different to some extent. Here the pattern is "lowered" and may be the same on as well the tarpaulin as on the body.

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All above patterns have a similar structure but I would like to know if the varieties are typical for each type of vehicle (MWD versus MWR or MW compressor truck) or was it a painter's choice or maybe period dependent?

Furthermore, I would like to know how the side steps, petrol tanks, mud flaps, tow rop box and petrol can bracket on a bedford MWD are blackened? Will they be completely black or just what can be viewed from the side, top and/or back? But how then for, for instance, the petrol tank which is half hidden in the tub and half hidden under the vehicle?

Summarized, I would like to know how to black painting a MWD with the above as a guide!

Thanks,

Danny

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