39Fordson Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 Good evening, I am in the process of starting to restore what I believe to be a Type C MK1 Bomb Trolley and am looking for some assistance as I am unaware of any other examples to use as a reference because the RAF Museum has no info available, I have the manual for MK2 and MK3 models which have helped to some degree but I am struggling to confirm the precise arrangement of the leaf springs especially the rear ones as I think I am a few leafs missing. I understand that the MK1's where converted into the rigid MK2 version. Would anyone have a manual for the MK1 and or any photos or even know the whereabouts of one, I have had a good search of the web and have found very little to assist. I am also on the look out for some tyres and the rear towing hitch Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Best regards Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUNTMAN Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Hello,thats the one off ebay,glad someones saved it,shame its abit chopped up but shouldn't be a problem if your handy with a welder,im currently doing 2 C types I'm just at the clean up n paint stage! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUNTMAN Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 p.s you can still buy the tyres new,ive priced some up for one of mine,they £48 each... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MowerMan Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 I need a small, long, low trailer to move tree trunks in our woods using garden tractor as big machines cause too much collateral damage! Bomb trolley could be ideal. Any out there for sale not too far from Berkshire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBC1940 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 (edited) Hi Mark, how are you managing with the restoration, only just found this thread. any pics of its progress welcome. are you still lacking vital data, I might have some photos if I dig deep. I have now sent you a PM as I aim to help you all ways possible. You have the only Type C Mk l that I am aware of and we must all do what we can to assist. The channel cross members though are not the W supports that sat atop the side frames in the U brackets that made the C type Mk1 distinctive along with its front and back leaf spring pairs, tubular cross members and adjustable orientation (fwd or up) elephant trunk-like (though very short ones !) devices for mounting small hoists. BOBC Edited June 3, 2019 by BOBC1940 PM flag up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39Fordson Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) Hi BOBC Things are progressing at a slow pace but getting there slowly, the amount of corrosion has been an issue along with rebuilding the springs. Yes the W supports have been removed but there is evidence of the U brackets being fitted remaining, I have left this evidence as part of its history but 3 of its adjustable bearers survived (though one is in two pieces), non of the wedges survived. so will have to make these from scratch along with a extra bearer. The other odd thing is that is square box section and not round tube with the disc hoist attachments, which leads me to think there must have been 2 versions of a MK1, sadly the data plate is missing but you can see were it was fitted. Replacement wheels have been an issue in the hunt for an original matched set of Dunlop tyres I came across many variants of wheels, some with 6 holes, some with 5 and with varying spacings, plus different centre diameters, I've had to make some adaptors to get a matching set to fit. I will post some photos of how things have progressed. Regards Mark Edited June 4, 2019 by 39Fordson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39Fordson Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 Starting to put the framework back together including a new centre brace and plates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39Fordson Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) The remains of the bearers once all the extra bits have been removed. Note the evidence of the U brackets for the W supports. Edited June 4, 2019 by 39Fordson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39Fordson Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 Evidence of original paint, was looking to put it into Blue Grey but not sure after finding this, green was on the front, brown/red on the rear cross members, but have also found Blue Grey on the rear hubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39Fordson Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 Springs back from rebuild along with new clamps, they were all loose in a box and it turned out 3 were missing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39Fordson Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 Framework now completed and primed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39Fordson Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) Rear axle rebuild about to start. One thing I am missing and need to find is the rear towing hook if anyone can help locating one. Edited June 4, 2019 by 39Fordson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39Fordson Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 Rear axle and springs now back in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39Fordson Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 Rear wheel hubs about to be rebuilt with new bearings after much work to strip and rebuild them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39Fordson Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 Hubs fitted and trial fit of the rims 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBC1940 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Hi, Hope you can get hold of me via your PM I sent. Great to see this coming along., if only more had cared for Bomb Trolleys over the years, and not blinkered on aircraft. I can't ID this as the Type C Mk 1 had no trough type cross members and it had tubular front and rear members with the two discs for attaching the trunking for the small hoist. The trough type cross members are Type C Mk ll and Mk lll, the Mk ll also having tubular cross members but solid arms out to axles, I wonder if there is a Type C Mk ll late version then ? have you or anyone got photos of this trolley with its 'crossbreed' spec in action ? BOBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39Fordson Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 My 39 Fordson during filming of the upcoming BBC Drama "World on Fire", hopefully later this year I will be able to take her out towing the bomb trolley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39Fordson Posted June 4, 2019 Author Share Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, BOBC1940 said: Hi, Hope you can get hold of me via your PM I sent. Great to see this coming along., if only more had cared for Bomb Trolleys over the years, and not blinkered on aircraft. I can't ID this as the Type C Mk 1 had no trough type cross members and it had tubular front and rear members with the two discs for attaching the trunking for the small hoist. The trough type cross members are Type C Mk ll and Mk lll, the Mk ll also having tubular cross members but solid arms out to axles, I wonder if there is a Type C Mk ll late version then ? have you or anyone got photos of this trolley with its 'crossbreed' spec in action ? BOBC I was thinking more along the lines of a Type C MK 1 1/2 (or a later MK1 version part way to a MKII) due to the fact it had suspension and was originally fitted with W frames, the trough type bearers are a defiantly later modification. Could it be this came between the MK1 and MKII but was not found to be suitable for loading via the loading ramp, hence the change to rigid frames, it has wheel bearings so that makes it early as later wheels were fitted with bushes. Its a bit of an enigma as I have not found any photo evidence of one yet, either way it makes it rare. Regards Mark Edited June 4, 2019 by 39Fordson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butcher Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 On 6/4/2019 at 7:54 PM, 39Fordson said: My 39 Fordson during filming of the upcoming BBC Drama "World on Fire", hopefully later this year I will be able to take her out towing the bomb trolley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butcher Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Nice one your bomb trolley has 3 stud wheels are they original I have a horse drawn dray that has the same wheels and was sure they had come of a car of some sort do you have wheels for sale I have a friend who is looking for some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BOBC1940 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Hi Butcher, I think you are referring to Fordson39's accumulator trolley towed behind the Fordson in the photo, as his bomb trolley with its green hub has 6 studs, counting the lightening holes I count 12 on the accumulator trolley and 12 on the yellow hub. Need a larger pic of the accumulator trolley to see the stud count. what are those three (one missing) pointed spiggots on the yellow rim ? BOBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11th Armoured Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, BOBC1940 said: What are those three (one missing) pointed spiggots on the yellow rim ? BOBC I'd hazard a guess that they're intended to hold a hub-cab in place - assuming that the wheel was originally designed to be used on a car. Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Farrant Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 These wheels were known as Easyclean (spelling may not be correct) and used by a number of car makers in late 1930's. I think that Hillman used a 3-stud wheel hub. The wheel shown has the lugs for a hub cap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBC1940 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 Maybe the RAF decided to use them as well, rather than 're-invent the wheel' ....oh dear couldnt resist that one 🤣 Early accumulator trolleys had solid hubs and a 'dog kennel' shape to the wooden box, then they went more squat shape, flat top with wide chamfered corners/sides and these 12 port wheels appeared. BOBC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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