ColinR Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Would anyone have details on the plate / holder (the one fitted with 'PASS' on this vehicle) and when it was in use? I've seen various cmp's fitted with them but i also noticed it on the Bedford QLT's in the film 'millions like us'. Was it short lived? Was it used on British vehicles or just a few cases? Any info would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz48 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Would anyone have details on the plate / holder (the one fitted with 'PASS' on this vehicle) and when it was in use? I've seen various cmp's fitted with them but i also noticed it on the Bedford QLT's in the film 'millions like us'. Was it short lived? Was it used on British vehicles or just a few cases? Any info would be appreciated. PASS plates are mention in the booklet MILITARY VEHICLE MARKINGS Part 2 Tactical signs & National Identification Marks by Terence Wise a BELLONA publication priced 75-pence so not new mentions a plate measuring 9-1/2” high by 8-1/2” wide. Unit signs on one side with PASS in white on a Khaki background on the other saying to be shown whenever a vehicle is halted or broken down, or for any other reason not affecting other road users. It say’s in many cases the practice was simplified by painting the unit markings directly on the vehicle in the prescribed area as the PASS side was used infrequently. The holders for this plate were intended to be fitted to all British vehicles at time of manufacture but at what point they began to disappear is open to debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinR Posted July 30, 2017 Author Share Posted July 30, 2017 Much appreciated! Just ordered both books including postage for under £20 so will have a little reading to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyB Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Depending on the reference source used; either Sep 41 (Warpaint Vol 3 - Dick Taylor) or Apr 42 (British Military Markings - P Hodges & M Taylor) although it would appear that RASC troop carrying vehicles did not loose their PASS Plates until the publication of Amendment 4 to Vehicle Markings 1942 dated 2 Dec 1942. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79x100 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I posted this excerpt from Vehicle markings 1942 on the FB page yesterday but things disappear so quickly there ! Probably vehicles in service before about the end of 1941 ought to have them and later deliveries not, but I bet it wasn't that clear cut... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landrover nick Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 sorry to high jack this thread but in the last posting there was a date of 4th of may 1940 mentioned with regard to the the bridge plate system was this the date the bridge plate system came into use or was it in use pre war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79x100 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I can't immediately think of any pre-war images showing bridging plates. The documentary evidence suggests that it was a work in progress during April / May 1940 and had not yet become fully standardised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinR Posted July 30, 2017 Author Share Posted July 30, 2017 Depending on the reference source used; either Sep 41 (Warpaint Vol 3 - Dick Taylor) or Apr 42 (British Military Markings - P Hodges & M Taylor) although it would appear that RASC troop carrying vehicles did not loose their PASS Plates until the publication of Amendment 4 to Vehicle Markings 1942 dated 2 Dec 1942. So do I make the assumption that the footage in 'millions like us' would be stock footage? It was released end of '43. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAFMT Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 So is this what you are doing with your time now Colin? Hope i get to see the finished product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinR Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 On 7/31/2017 at 8:35 AM, RAFMT said: So is this what you are doing with your time now Colin? Hope i get to see the finished product. Well this and filling out tribunal paperwork ready for the case against the museum :-) Yes i'm sure you will see her and I haven't forgotten about your bits ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAFMT Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Now you've gone and done it, everyone knows you keep thinking about my bits! Oh for the free time to actually do stuff in, i would offer a hand otherwise. Have you moved your base of operations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinR Posted October 21, 2017 Author Share Posted October 21, 2017 You know your bits are something to behold! Grubby but ever so handy!!! And I have indeed moved bases, I am now only resident in two counties instead of four! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Child Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 Where did you find the copy of Vehicle Markings? Is it a personal copy or one from a museum archive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinR Posted October 23, 2017 Author Share Posted October 23, 2017 13 hours ago, Lauren Child said: Where did you find the copy of Vehicle Markings? Is it a personal copy or one from a museum archive? abebooks.co.uk Search for military vehicle markings and both are still available for about £25 including postage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Child Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 Ah, I have the Terence Wise books - I meant the 1942/1943 pamphlets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
79x100 Posted October 23, 2017 Share Posted October 23, 2017 National Archives WO199/1052 http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_q=WO199%2F1052 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Child Posted October 24, 2017 Share Posted October 24, 2017 Thanks everso! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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