MiketheBike Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 What is the easiest way to remove surface rust and restore a chain? I am referring to the recovery chains on the front of a ferret...they are smothered in rust. thanks, mick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 cosrec Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Cement mixer and soft sand polishes them up wipe with oily rag occasionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Nice one! Never thought of that. Mind you, ear defenders mandatory. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Topdog Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Cement mixer and soft sand polishes them up wipe with oily rag occasionally. Oh GOOD effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 MiketheBike Posted November 6, 2016 Author Share Posted November 6, 2016 Cement mixer and soft sand polishes them up wipe with oily rag occasionally. Thankyou, an elegant simple solution!!!! Now to call my builder mate 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Starfire Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 That should work nicely, or you can sand blast them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 utt61 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Cement mixer and soft sand polishes them up wipe with oily rag occasionally. Brilliant idea, I hadn't thought of that for chains! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 OZITIM Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 One part molasses to 9 parts water. soak for a couple of days or up to two weeks. Thats obviously if you dont have a cement mixer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Pete Ashby Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Cement mixer and soft sand polishes them up wipe with oily rag occasionally. never occurred to me :goodidea:, I wonder how effective this would be at cleaning nuts and bolts? I'll have to try it. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 armouredfarmer Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Cement mixer and soft sand polishes them up wipe with oily rag occasionally. Yes it will, but beware it may damage the hardened surface, I certainly wouldn't use them for any recovery work after it had been done. We have a "fleet" of about 1500 chain hoists and when we need to de-rust chains we use a mix of leather off-cuts and nylon blocks as the cleaning medium, still use a cement mixer though;) PT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 antar Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Yes the cement mixer does a perfect job...but be prepared for unwrapping the chains from the padles in the mixer a few times if the chain links are small enough to go between the drum and paddle. Done it plenty of times in the past, needs water in there too to make the sand very runny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ruxy Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) Yes it will, but beware it may damage the hardened surface, I certainly wouldn't use them for any recovery work after it had been done. We have a "fleet" of about 1500 chain hoists and when we need to de-rust chains we use a mix of leather off-cuts and nylon blocks as the cleaning medium, still use a cement mixer though;) PT I doubt if any modern lifting / dragging alloy steel chain will have a hardened surface (skin) , less common higher grades + the lowest grade (most often used) 'T' (80) - this is through hardened for strength and wear resistance and then tempered back to gain shock-absorber properties ,, Edited November 7, 2016 by ruxy spelin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 fesm_ndt Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Thankyou, an elegant simple solution!!!! Now to call my builder mate 😀 Also your builder mate will be happy as it will clean the mixing bowl :cool2: We used to chuck chain in ours to clean the bowl with light stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 armouredfarmer Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I doubt if any modern lifting / dragging alloy steel chain will have a hardened surface (skin) , less common higher grades + the lowest grade (most often used) 'T' (80) - this is through hardened for strength and wear resistance and then tempered back to gain shock-absorber properties ,, I have been testing and inspecting lifting gear for the past 30 years, trust me all modern chain hoist chain has a hardened surface and the speed at which a chain can wear to failure point once this surface is compromised is frightening. PT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ruxy Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 News on me because if it had a hard surface - such as to protect your 2% extension wear limit, after that would be far too rapid , not counting some lifting chanes that have a plated finish. btw - I have been in lifting equipment since 1965 when wrought chains were still annealed every 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LarryH57 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Has anyone tried the cement mixer and sand on any other parts of an MV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Chris Suslowicz Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Has anyone tried the cement mixer and sand on any other parts of an MV? It's just a bigger version of a case tumbler, using sand instead of walnut shell as the cleaning media. Most cement mixers are too small to fit an MV in. :-D Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Tony B Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Isn't sawdust a preffered cleaning medium for this sort of stuff? That shouldn't harm a hardened surface. I remember using it as a kid in little lapidary drums to polish up metal bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ruxy Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Barreling machine or a vibrating tumbler , using special plastic shapes of a sort of triangle based pyramid - they are impregnated with abrasive silica (different grades available) - ISTR done dry. Press shops normally used a vibrating tumbler with similar abrasive blocks to remove shear flash on parts that were to be handled during assembly after , IIRC these were just Carborundum shapes & done wet. Mixers get used for all sorts , I purchased a Honda powered Belle mixer that had been used by a bloke who cooked his own dog biscuits then broke them up in the mixer prior to bagging - can't have been quite right because the mixer was mint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 fesm_ndt Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 Has anyone tried the cement mixer and sand on any other parts of an MV? I have to reline a motorcycle fueltank and my plan is to ratchet strap it to the bowl for the 3 step process Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 LarryH57 Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I presume you are going to fill the fuel tank with sand or other abrasive and seal all the holes then have it turned over and over by the mixer? Please take a photo then when you do it and post it here! It sounds like there are many possibilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ruxy Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I presume you are going to fill the fuel tank with sand or other abrasive and seal all the holes then have it turned over and over by the mixer? Please take a photo then when you do it and post it here! It sounds like there are many possibilities SLOSH (sealant) ,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 fesm_ndt Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) A bit of both as first step is rocks and nuts or something inside, to get rid of the loose stuff. Second is acid treatment Last is the sealant Each step is supposed to be hold in you arms and shake it or slosh it vigorously..... pretty sure the novelty would wear thin pretty quickly. I figure this would work on bigger tanks also especially with the tilt type mixers Edited November 10, 2016 by fesm_ndt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 cosrec Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) Has anyone tried the cement mixer and sand on any other parts of an MV? yes works brilliant with commercial wheel nuts they are a right pain to shot blast loose Edited November 10, 2016 by cosrec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 CMP-Phil Posted November 10, 2016 Share Posted November 10, 2016 Hi I've cleaned gas tanks, but instead of sand used broken safety glass, the type that breaks into little cubes. Wanted something that if any remained in the tank would not desolve. Worked well. Cheers Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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What is the easiest way to remove surface rust and restore a chain? I am referring to the recovery chains on the front of a ferret...they are smothered in rust.
thanks,
mick
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